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Originally Posted by jones8352
(Post 12920623)
Sand it where the motor touches it.....
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Originally Posted by Djameso
(Post 12920660)
I have a helpful solution for the shock tower digging into the body.
You need to purchase the body mount kit for the SCT410 and cut the ends off the plastic piece that attaches to the shock tower and bolt it to the shock tower with the shock studs. You will still have a little room between the body and the plastic if you use foam body saver pads. If you look at the pics you should be able to figure out what I mean. Hope this helps! Attachment 1156567 Attachment 1156568 Attachment 1156569 Attachment 1156570 Attachment 1156571 . What shock boots are those? |
Originally Posted by mavdriver
(Post 12919072)
Dan Looking good did you use a standard mod 1 pinion or did you have to use the elongated type pinion ? Tekno R/C Long Shank Pinion 15T Mod 1.5mm Bore HrdSteel
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Originally Posted by metoo
(Post 12921061)
That's the same combo I originally planned to use, but I didn't think the HW ESC would fit [see you had to cut into the side for the sensor wire] and I wasn't sure I wanted a buggy motor.
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Cool thats what i what I was thinking I`m running mod 1 15 pinion on my RC8T , will start with that on the ET 48
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So anyone know if we are dealing w the same weak rear diff as the buggy right now? I bought a couple old version rear diff cases, debating on installing...
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Originally Posted by 8ight-e
(Post 12921692)
So anyone know if we are dealing w the same weak rear diff as the buggy right now? I bought a couple old version rear diff cases, debating on installing...
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Originally Posted by scorpion51503
(Post 12921184)
????????:weird:
Conventional wisdom says go down on pinion size to increase lowend torque. For this reason you go to a smaller crank ring on a bicycle when going uphill. I your nitro monster truck wouldn't wheelie from a low speed punch, put a smaller pinion (clutchbell) on and wheelies come easily. The way I understand it [not saying I'm right]: Too small of a pinion and you'll just have wheel spin and a slow car. It'll be outside of its powerband running at high rpm with little load which is also no good for the motor. Too big of a pinion, again, the car will be outside of its powerband and will be a slug off the line. There will be plenty of torque measured at the crank (motor shaft) due to the increased load, but not at the axles where it counts. Pending the powerband and available traction, going up in pinion can produce a faster take off. As you keep going up, it will eventually reduce take off. So, if your motor has a nasty fat torque curve, increasing the pinion tooth count can make you car accelerate even harder. I ran into this problem after converting my Revo to brushless. It would wheelie way to easily. I went up in pinion, it just looked stronger. I went up again...still flipping on it lid and starting to be come way too fast. I went up again, and finally, the wheelies became on demand instead of everytime I touched the throttle, but now it has way more than necessary top end. The real solution is to get a less stout motor. I'm open totally open to hear what it is that I may be missing hear. No offense will be taken. I'm hear to learn. |
Originally Posted by Mullet1
(Post 12921416)
At first I thought y'all meant sanding the center diff holders and I wasn't going to do that. It's the center diff brace that limits the motor from sliding over. Took a little off the brace and the 14 fits perfectly.
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Originally Posted by metoo
(Post 12921834)
That's what I said at first until I thought about it.
Conventional wisdom says go down on pinion size to increase lowend torque. For this reason you go to a smaller crank ring on a bicycle when going uphill. I your nitro monster truck wouldn't wheelie from a low speed punch, put a smaller pinion (clutchbell) on and wheelies come easily. The way I understand it [not saying I'm right]: Too small of a pinion and you'll just have wheel spin and a slow car. It'll be outside of its powerband running at high rpm with little load which is also no good for the motor. Too big of a pinion, again, the car will be outside of its powerband and will be a slug off the line. There will be plenty of torque measured at the crank (motor shaft) due to the increased load, but not at the axles where it counts. Pending the powerband and available traction, going up in pinion can produce a faster take off. As you keep going up, it will eventually reduce take off. So, if your motor has a nasty fat torque curve, increasing the pinion tooth count can make you car accelerate even harder. I ran into this problem after converting my Revo to brushless. It would wheelie way to easily. I went up in pinion, it just looked stronger. I went up again...still flipping on it lid and starting to be come way too fast. I went up again, and finally, the wheelies became on demand instead of everytime I touched the throttle, but now it has way more than necessary top end. The real solution is to get a less stout motor. I'm open totally open to hear what it is that I may be missing hear. No offense will be taken. I'm hear to learn. |
Originally Posted by metoo
(Post 12921834)
That's what I said at first until I thought about it.
Conventional wisdom says go down on pinion size to increase lowend torque. For this reason you go to a smaller crank ring on a bicycle when going uphill. I your nitro monster truck wouldn't wheelie from a low speed punch, put a smaller pinion (clutchbell) on and wheelies come easily. The way I understand it [not saying I'm right]: Too small of a pinion and you'll just have wheel spin and a slow car. It'll be outside of its powerband running at high rpm with little load which is also no good for the motor. Too big of a pinion, again, the car will be outside of its powerband and will be a slug off the line. There will be plenty of torque measured at the crank (motor shaft) due to the increased load, but not at the axles where it counts. Pending the powerband and available traction, going up in pinion can produce a faster take off. As you keep going up, it will eventually reduce take off. So, if your motor has a nasty fat torque curve, increasing the pinion tooth count can make you car accelerate even harder. I ran into this problem after converting my Revo to brushless. It would wheelie way to easily. I went up in pinion, it just looked stronger. I went up again...still flipping on it lid and starting to be come way too fast. I went up again, and finally, the wheelies became on demand instead of everytime I touched the throttle, but now it has way more than necessary top end. The real solution is to get a less stout motor. I'm open totally open to hear what it is that I may be missing hear. No offense will be taken. I'm hear to learn.
Originally Posted by scorpion51503
(Post 12922039)
Every motor has a (sweet spot )from my opinion the increased amp draw from putting a larger pinion is due to the fact that the motor has an increased load at low end which would mean less torque and more top end the way I'm understanding some of the recent theories on here is they are saying that a larger pinion will give you more low end power as well as top speed which makes no sense to me
So the important thing to remember vs old wisdom, unlike the brushed motors and nitro motors you don't need the RPM's up to get the torque. This isn't super technical, but hopefully it makes sense :) |
Originally Posted by 8ight-e
(Post 12922065)
It is a brushless thing.. you can get full torque immediately regardless of gearing if your lipo can keep up w/ the demand. So if you have reserve (in reference to the lipo) and you gear up (larger pinion) you will have more "effective" torque; power and speed. At some point it will get too big and these effects will fade and cause heat and stress on the system, but can also tame the feel a little as well. Again if the battery is not able to provide what the motor needs gearing down can increase the 'effective torque" or how it feels.
So the important thing to remember vs old wisdom, unlike the brushed motors and nitro motors you don't need the RPM's up to get the torque. This isn't super technical, but hopefully it makes sense :) |
Originally Posted by Mullet1
(Post 12921424)
I might give that a shot.
What shock boots are those? They're only $10 free shipping. I've had some on my EB48 for 6 months and they're still good! I always buy the ones you cut to length. |
Here is the simplest term I know, don't worry about going up a tooth or 2, and some cases 3 teeth on your pinion! Go by feel and motor, esc temps. I have geared up many times, to tame a motor the esc couldn't. Track size, also dictates how far you should gear one way or the other....ect
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Originally Posted by scorpion51503
(Post 12922388)
I give up
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