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elex300 04-15-2013 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by gmoney16 (Post 12051110)
with my experience in my 4.2 when you build a diff the most critical part is the break-in, after about 4 diffs that didnt last more than 2 race days i finally figured out how to build one, break-in, and setting to make it last.

Exactly. Take time breaking it in. I spend more time then probably needed but I have a diff thats 6 months old racing once a week and its still as smooth as day 1.

Wildcat1971 04-16-2013 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Cridd (Post 12051039)
that was my next question, what is the difference with the same ratios but different size pinions and spurs. bigger spur smaller pinion is more torque, so bigger pinion smaller spur is less torque more horsepower, high speed?

motor placement. I dont really mess with it, but they say some combination can get the motor closer to the tranny and thus more weight over the cvds and less hanging off the back.

Bob Barry 04-16-2013 04:47 AM

my 4.2 is up for sale along with one of my Viper ESC / Motor combos. PM me if interested. Pics and parts list located here.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...l#post12051535

Bob Barry 04-16-2013 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12051516)
motor placement. I dont really mess with it, but they say some combination can get the motor closer to the tranny and thus more weight over the cvds and less hanging off the back.

I switched to 78 spur to move the motor forward some and like it. I'm going to put my 17.5 gearing on the car (34/69) and figure out the motor placement and then see if I can get the same motor placement with my mod motor. I may have to swap to a 75 spur.... not sure yet. Time to bust out the calipers and measure stuff :D

Andrew Selvaggi 04-16-2013 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12051516)
motor placement. I dont really mess with it, but they say some combination can get the motor closer to the tranny and thus more weight over the cvds and less hanging off the back.

Myself along with a couple other AE guys here in AUS have been running 75 tooth spur with 8.5T motors. Personly I have found it great, with a 24 pinnion the motor is as far forward that the motor plate will allow. Forward traction isnt affected much or at all, increased midcorner traction and on power steering were the major differences for me. Others may have different result depending on thier setups.

t0p_sh0tta 04-16-2013 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by elex300 (Post 12050687)
I've been running 1.6's/27.5,30AE/black fr,grn rear springs for a while with decent results. I run on a hard packed clay track with high traction and minimal dust and small jumps. I dont want to spend the dough on tapered pistons so would going to the 1.7's with a little thicker oil give me better low speed dampening (Stop the pogoing)?


Originally Posted by DanielC. (Post 12050881)
It will make the car more reactive and could be ideal in a lower traction or smooth track, but it feels inconsistent and worse than 1.6 at a track like Newreds where it's somewhat rutted up. You might want to give the green fronts a shot as well with 32.5/30 and 1.6's

I agree with Daniel. I liked the stiffer spring up front, as it helped keep the rear in line. I was running green/white with the AE springs. I recently gave the Kyosho Pink/Gold springs a try with the tapered 1.6, and the car is good, really good, if you don't have any big jumps. I did end up going up 1/2 weight all the way around to keep it from being under-damped. I'd like to give the tapered 1.4s a try, but it's not worth the money IMO.

edit: Moving the motor forward decreases the pendulum effect, and I really liked it when running milder motors. I don't know if my 7.5 would take too kindly to a small spur, especially with summer just around the corner.

Venom1836 04-16-2013 06:25 AM

Does anyone have a link to pictures of Cavalieri's B4 with the all red JConcepts body?

Where can I get a set of plain text stickers (in yellow if possible) for somewhat cheap.

Upgrade RC is insane ($30 for a set of stickers that I am not sure if I will even like.)

Im looking for Team Associated, JConcepts, Reedy, LRP, and Futaba stickers.

Advantage R/C 04-16-2013 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Venom1836 (Post 12051734)
Does anyone have a link to pictures of Cavalieri's B4 with the all red JConcepts body?

Where can I get a set of plain text stickers (in yellow if possible) for somewhat cheap.

Upgrade RC is insane ($30 for a set of stickers that I am not sure if I will even like.)

Im looking for Team Associated, JConcepts, Reedy, LRP, and Futaba stickers.

There is a few options depending on where you live. On the West side of the country you have Upgrade R/C ($30) Stickit1racing ($20 best bang for your buck.) And on the East side you have Darkside which I beilve is $15 a sheet but only 1 logo? Not sure on Darkside but S1 Racing is awesome!

Wildcat1971 04-16-2013 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 12051631)
I agree with Daniel. I liked the stiffer spring up front, as it helped keep the rear in line. I was running green/white with the AE springs. I recently gave the Kyosho Pink/Gold springs a try with the tapered 1.6, and the car is good, really good, if you don't have any big jumps. I did end up going up 1/2 weight all the way around to keep it from being under-damped. I'd like to give the tapered 1.4s a try, but it's not worth the money IMO.

edit: Moving the motor forward decreases the pendulum effect, and I really liked it when running milder motors. I don't know if my 7.5 would take too kindly to a small spur, especially with summer just around the corner.

man, you guys really seem to love those K Springs. I find it hard to believe that the spring performance is so far off on the AE. I cant justify $40 for springs. but that is just me I guess.

shagnat 04-16-2013 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12051762)
man, you guys really seem to love those K Springs. I find it hard to believe that the spring performance is so far off on the AE. I cant justify $40 for springs. but that is just me I guess.

ain't it the truth!!?? cannot imagine getting $40 worth of difference, but, I'm barely a racer, much less a pro-level racer. :blush:

Tradin Paint 04-16-2013 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12050531)
for 17.5 that can happen. you can put a smaller pinion in for the 2 inches to give it more torque. then once you set it, put your pinion for racing back in. The slipper is there to save your diff. its not traction control.

Not so sure I agree with that. You shouldn't set your slipper based on a "power package" that is different from what you are going to run. It is my understanding that the diff is for traction control in the corners and that the slipper is for traction control in a forward motion and in coming off jumps. Is that not correct?

DanielC. 04-16-2013 06:54 AM

Just don't buy TLR springs and you'll be golden.

Wildcat1971 04-16-2013 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Tradin Paint (Post 12051799)
Not so sure I agree with that. You shouldn't set your slipper based on a "power package" that is different from what you are going to run. It is my understanding that the diff is for traction control in the corners and that the slipper is for traction control in a forward motion and in coming off jumps. Is that not correct?

Well, it really depends. We used to run on REALLY slick tracks and we used the slipper like traction control. But that is very hard on the slipper and not needed. "most" people set minimal slip (enough to save the drive train) and use their fingers for traction control. In all honestly, I think the trigger finger is the best form of "traction" control. I think is how some people are melting the avid slippers. You can generate a lot of heat using a slipper for more than drive train protection. And the AE pads will glaze quick and the slipper will work even worse. Anyway, I am sure someone will beg to differ, but IMO the slipper is there to save the diff. The same way a servo saver saves the servo, but lol were sure got rid of those.

PFKAOG 04-16-2013 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Tradin Paint (Post 12051799)
Not so sure I agree with that. You shouldn't set your slipper based on a "power package" that is different from what you are going to run. It is my understanding that the diff is for traction control in the corners and that the slipper is for traction control in a forward motion and in coming off jumps. Is that not correct?

Be careful who you take advise from on here ;) . You're better off asking the fast guys at your local track for help than strangers here :nod:

chevmaro 04-16-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Tradin Paint (Post 12051799)
Not so sure I agree with that. You shouldn't set your slipper based on a "power package" that is different from what you are going to run. It is my understanding that the diff is for traction control in the corners and that the slipper is for traction control in a forward motion and in coming off jumps. Is that not correct?

I agree with the first part.

Anyway i got the slipper worked out. I had my punch set to 80% from my 8.5. So I cranked that up to 100 and moved throttle expo back to 100. It pops the wheels nicely about 1 inch off the ground. I'm leaving it there.


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