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Old 07-03-2013 | 12:17 PM
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Before I get too much further (rear end done) - I have a question on the sound of the gearboxes. I used the shims as called for in the addendum etc. the instructions say they should run freely and should be smooth with no binding. They feel mechanical - I can feel the gears meshing, but I wouldn't call it rough. There is some gear sound too, but not what I'd call grinding. Having never built one, any guidance on how much noise and what kind of feel is appropriate?
If I need to pull it all apart, I'd rather know now!

Edit : sounds like a video I'm not allowed to post that I found on YouTube so I guess I'm ok.

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Old 07-03-2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Thoth105
Before I get too much further (rear end done) - I have a question on the sound of the gearboxes. I used the shims as called for in the addendum etc. the instructions say they should run freely and should be smooth with no binding. They feel mechanical - I can feel the gears meshing, but I wouldn't call it rough. There is some gear sound too, but not what I'd call grinding. Having never built one, any guidance on how much noise and what kind of feel is appropriate?
If I need to pull it all apart, I'd rather know now!
Check this video out, sounds like you are on the right track:

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Old 07-03-2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by snwchris
Yes, the Green Slime is a Losi Oring lube that you should be using to lube the Orings before installing them in the shock.

Actually there's a good video on Youtube of a guy building the SCT410 shocks for a friend that was having leaking issue. I built mine while watching vid and no issues yet with them.
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That was probably UN4, he does great build vids.
Thanks guys, just watched UN4's video. I'll try putting the shocks together like he did with some green slime.

Originally Posted by sramos
what diff oil are you running? i had the "whip" when i first drove it. since i went to 10/10/5 i have never had it again. i can go to a lighter diff on a loose track and not get the whip
When I first built the truck I started with 7-10-5. I've had 3 track days on the truck, so I think it's time for a diff rebuild anyways. I'm gonna try the 10-10-5 setup. Do you think the diff whip is coming from the front then? The only time I get really bad whip is on switchback sections of the track.

Originally Posted by Cain
Take a look at your shock bodies. Make sure that you don't have any issues where the shock shaft passes into the shock body has any deformation there.

I saw this issue (not on a tekno) once that was causing the person all kinds of fits trying to fix the issue.
I rebuilt it the second time really really carefully to make sure there was no binding or deformation. I think the main problem was tightening the cap and then putting the shaft through the o-rings. I'm gonna try assembling the o-rings on the shock shaft first before tightening the cap.

Originally Posted by Slotmachine
I use automotive axle grease on the o-rings and they never leak. When installing the shaft loosen up the retaining collar at the bottom of the shock so it does not compress the o-rings then tighten it back up after you install the shaft. Make sure your shafts are not scratched up, have you been running your shock boots? If they are marked up get new shafts.
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I didn't run the boots after the first rebuild. Wanted to run it a track day without them so I could see if they were still leaking. Sure enough, they were. I'm running on an indoor clay track, with very little dust. The truck still looks brand new after 3 track days. Anyone else running indoors and not using the boots?

Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72
Sramos,
I want to give your setup a try but without the Feroni pistons. What would you suggest as an alternative?
I'm running his setup with the stock pistons for now until I can get my hands on some Fioroni's. The setup works pretty well on a high bite, indoor clay track, but it's a bit stiff through the bumpy sections. The Fioroni pistons are the only thing that's keeping me from having his exact setup.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by karl wasabi
When I first built the truck I started with 7-10-5. I've had 3 track days on the truck, so I think it's time for a diff rebuild anyways. I'm gonna try the 10-10-5 setup. Do you think the diff whip is coming from the front then? The only time I get really bad whip is on switchback sections of the track.
hard to say with out seeing it. just my opinion with out seeing it i would suggest taking out some droop first and or stiffening the sway bars. this is just my opinion/suggestion and i'm sure someone else will have a different one. take video of it doing it if can, so much easier to see whats going on
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Old 07-03-2013 | 01:56 PM
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May be worth new o rings.
The point to inserting the shaft with the cap loose is to avoid tearing the o ring. Doing it again with the cap loose may not help if the o ring is already damaged.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sramos
hard to say with out seeing it. just my opinion with out seeing it i would suggest taking out some droop first and or stiffening the sway bars. this is just my opinion/suggestion and i'm sure someone else will have a different one. take video of it doing it if can, so much easier to see whats going on
Yeah, I'll see if I can get a video of it. I'm running 100mm in the front and 116mm in the rear. Also running the 2.4 sway in the front and 2.6 in the back.

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May be worth new o rings.
The point to inserting the shaft with the cap loose is to avoid tearing the o ring. Doing it again with the cap loose may not help if the o ring is already damaged.
I bought that pack of 16 o-rings for the first rebuild. I still have plenty new ones left.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 02:01 PM
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Ha Ha! Yep, that's how you do it... get the parts that are needed to keep it going fast and I guess the ones that will break too.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by EbbTide
That's good stuff to know bud. Just got the Tekno kit from the UPS guy. And the MMP SCT will be in tomorrow. My local track does have a 2s limit in 4x4 SC racing. But I hadn't planned on really racing it with my crappy work schedule. It'd just be some "friendly" races when i manage to get out there for some fun :-) Thanks again though. I'm definitely happy to hear positive things considering the immense amount of BEC issues I keep hearing about regarding the MMP. Although it seems to only happen with certain electronic combos.
It's fine on higher cell counts (3s and above), but i kinda sucks on 2s in a heavy truck. It has issues even with an external bec installed. I'm replacing my mmp with a hobbywing sct-pro and putting the old mmp in my 4s powered e-buggy. I've heard no issues with using it on 4s-6s setups. I don't recall a single problem when i used it with the 1415 2400Kv motor on a 3 cell pack.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thoth105
Before I get too much further (rear end done) - I have a question on the sound of the gearboxes. I used the shims as called for in the addendum etc. the instructions say they should run freely and should be smooth with no binding. They feel mechanical - I can feel the gears meshing, but I wouldn't call it rough. There is some gear sound too, but not what I'd call grinding. Having never built one, any guidance on how much noise and what kind of feel is appropriate?
If I need to pull it all apart, I'd rather know now!

Edit : sounds like a video I'm not allowed to post that I found on YouTube so I guess I'm ok.
Did you grease the gears? That is what usually cuts down the noise. I like to use Lucas Red & Tacky grease (you can find it in any auto parts store) because it doesnt sling off the gears. As long as you can spin in freely and it isnt fighting you you should be good to go.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Thoth105
Before I get too much further (rear end done) - I have a question on the sound of the gearboxes. I used the shims as called for in the addendum etc. the instructions say they should run freely and should be smooth with no binding. They feel mechanical - I can feel the gears meshing, but I wouldn't call it rough. There is some gear sound too, but not what I'd call grinding. Having never built one, any guidance on how much noise and what kind of feel is appropriate?
If I need to pull it all apart, I'd rather know now!

Edit : sounds like a video I'm not allowed to post that I found on YouTube so I guess I'm ok.
Try putting both shims on the gear side. If you can do this with no binding, go that way. If it binds at all, go back to stock. This really quieted my kits down.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Thoth105
Howdy,
I'm building this truck (first build) and this is all going swimmingly. UNTIL...the rear camber links/turnbuckles. I absolutely cannot get the metal part to thread into the plastic link. I have tried turning in one direction, and then the other. I have gotten one on, but after repeated attempts the other 3 just won't cooperate. I realize the turnbuckle is left and right threaded, but knowing this doesn't seem to help. Tips please! I hoping to complete this build today so I can wire it up before the weekend!
Thanks - DB
Here is the ultimate tip for any PITA camber link assembly. Take the link and chuck it up in a cordless drill. Be sure of the orientation of the threads, and spin the drill either forward for right-hand threads, or backward for left-hand threads. Put a little lube on the link, hold the plastic end with a hex wrench shaft or something similar. Use the drill to drive the link. Go slowly! Screw the link all the way in carefully, now work it back and forth a few times. Remove the plastic end, flip the link and the drill direction, and repeat for the other plastic end. Done in record time!
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Old 07-03-2013 | 07:12 PM
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For those of you running the aluminum caps on your shocks how are you building them and are you using the tekno bladder or foam compensators?
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Old 07-03-2013 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeC
For those of you running the aluminum caps on your shocks how are you building them and are you using the tekno bladder or foam compensators?
You must build them with bladders. The cap has a vent hole in it, so emulsion is out of the question. Use the Tekno bladders, they work great. No compensators, they will give way too much rebound, and the bladders do not need the support.
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Old 07-03-2013 | 10:38 PM
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Where I have to finish off for the night... :/

Damn floating shard of growth plate doesn't like the weather or excessive wrenching haha!
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Old 07-04-2013 | 07:43 AM
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Where I have to finish off for the night... :/

Damn floating shard of growth plate doesn't like the weather or excessive wrenching haha!
Welcome to the anti-DNF side
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