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tc5 man 03-23-2014 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13122502)
I'm running the +1 "X" hex, haven't ran the +0 "A" hex. The +1 leaves one thread past the nut.

The +1 should be more stable, you may lose a little "quickness" in the steering but I don't think it would be a very noticeable difference either way. I think its when you stagger them like +0 rear and +1 front that you start to notice it in the way it handles.
Maybe some that's ran +1 & +0 back to back can comment.




So how about 0 on the Front hexs and 1+ on the Rear would that make the Rear end from stop fishtailing ? Or do you need to do 1+ all around ?

Not sure about them on the Front end im thinking that will take a lot of steering away.

fq06 03-23-2014 11:52 AM

Forgot how it goes, more rear traction with a narrower rear than front? Probably getting more roll in the rear with a narrower track?
Edit:
Hudy says...

Wider front decreases front grip increases understeer
Narrower increases front grip decreases understeer & faster response.

Wider rear track increases grip @ corner entry
Increases high speed on throttle steering
To avoid traction rolls
Narrower rear increases grip at corner exit
Increases high speed understeer

rvinvents 03-23-2014 01:02 PM

hey guys;
on a side note I just got a set of fioroni's in and am thinking about running them with 27.5 front 25 rear (losi oil) green springs on an indoor high bite clay track, will this be good or do you recommend a 5 wt separation between front and back, or will the fioroni's change that because their more sensitive?
*I do like a bit stiffer ride*

wittyname 03-23-2014 01:06 PM

I have run 4 packs with my hw4700 , and 4 packs with my hd4300. I used the same pinion for both , a 15 ,and I'm curious what the guys running hd4300 usually end up at gear wise ?

Losi-mip 03-23-2014 01:30 PM

I just ordered the fioroni's and need some input. I run on a medium grip small/technical track. Right now running stock pistion with 40/32 Ae oils, yellow/yellow. With that said where do you think I should start tuning with the Fioroni pistons, oils and springs? Thanks in advance for your input!!

Mike

rvinvents 03-23-2014 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13122337)
I have ran borrego's since I built this truck in September. Broke the kit axle 2weeks ago and broke a replacement yesterday. Doubt its the wheel or I would have been breaking them months ago. No sanding the webbing down is needed.

Both times were flat landing a little past the downside on a triple, both times a little sideways on the landing, both times the rear taking most of the load in a sideways landing.

I think in my case its just this new triple put in at OCRC that your best line is landing the jump turned for the turn immediately after it.
Same wheels, same axles for the past 6 months and now one each day I've driven that new track layout.

I do like to set up for the corners in the air too, nothing so extreme as to break axles tho i would think.

rvinvents 03-23-2014 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by wittyname (Post 13122961)
I have run 4 packs with my hw4700 , and 4 packs with my hd4300. I used the same pinion for both , a 15 ,and I'm curious what the guys running hd4300 usually end up at gear wise ?

my preference for a larger indoor track is 17 or 18 with the tekin HD 4300

fq06 03-23-2014 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by rvinvents (Post 13123033)
I do like to set up for the corners in the air too, nothing so extreme as to break axles tho i would think.

I agree, that's just the common thing between both breaks. Aluminum 1/8 axles and bearings please Tekno :D

On the Fioroni oils questions, my take...

Tekno pinks or greens at the most depending on how stiff you like it.
For pinks 27f & 22.5 down to 20 in the rear. I ended up mixing 22.5 & 20 to get an in between rate. All personal preference within that range.

Greens you would probably be 2.5 higher in general than the pinks oil ranges.

tc5 man 03-23-2014 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13122815)
Forgot how it goes, more rear traction with a narrower rear than front? Probably getting more roll in the rear with a narrower track?
Edit:
Hudy says...

Wider front decreases front grip increases understeer
Narrower increases front grip decreases understeer & faster response.

Wider rear track increases grip @ corner entry
Increases high speed on throttle steering
To avoid traction rolls
Narrower rear increases grip at corner exit
Increases high speed understeer






Hum i may just use them up Front and see what happens. I dont get though how a narrow rear end equals more grip though .

fq06 03-23-2014 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by tc5 man (Post 13123078)
Hum i may just use them up Front and see what happens. I dont get though how a narrow rear end equals more grip though .

Guess its not really more, but where
Wider rear increases entrance grip and narrower rear increases exit grip & promotes understeer as you are accelerating.
Why? I don't know the physics of it but my guess is a shorter leverage bar so it is promoting more roll on the narrower end.

Losi-mip 03-23-2014 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13123057)
I agree, that's just the common thing between both breaks. Aluminum 1/8 axles and bearings please Tekno :D

On the Fioroni oils questions, my take...

Tekno pinks or greens at the most depending on how stiff you like it.
For pinks 27f & 22.5 down to 20 in the rear. I ended up mixing 22.5 & 20 to get an in between rate. All personal preference within that range.

Greens you would probably be 2.5 higher in general than the pinks oil ranges.

Thanks for the fast response!! Last question is the oil your recommending Losi or AE? I believe between the 2 different brands comparing the same weight, there is about a 5wt difference.

Thanks,
Mike

rvinvents 03-23-2014 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by ChuckTee (Post 13122321)
I was reading along and just wanted to say that the DE Borrego wheel has been and still is one of my favorite wheels to use for my sct410 and I personally have never had an issue with one of them. No spinning or modifications needed to make them fit. I have been one of the lucky ones maybe, but I would use them today or recommend to a friend. Just my .2

chucktee;
what hexes do you run, +0,+1, or +2mm?
that may be the key, (see pics) +0 hexes leave about 4 threads showing, and the borrego wheel leaves them exposed to catch on pipes, the proline F-11 sits deeper but leaves the nut exposed too, maybe I should cut off excess threads flush with the nut and see if that ends the problem?
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ps18aac19f.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63fd1fc8.jpg
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psf2824f4d.jpg
above with +0mm hexes.

fq06 03-23-2014 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Losi-mip (Post 13123155)
Thanks for the fast response!! Last question is the oil your recommending Losi or AE? I believe between the 2 different brands comparing the same weight, there is about a 5wt difference.

Thanks,
Mike

AE oil.
The difference is about 2 wt Losi needing 2.5wt higher for close to same cst as AE.

Jtipsy 03-23-2014 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by wittyname (Post 13122961)
I have run 4 packs with my hw4700 , and 4 packs with my hd4300. I used the same pinion for both , a 15 ,and I'm curious what the guys running hd4300 usually end up at gear wise ?

my 4700 hundred i swapped between a 16 and 17 and ended up liking the 16 the most.

tc5 man 03-23-2014 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by fq06 (Post 13123089)
Guess its not really more, but where
Wider rear increases entrance grip and narrower rear increases exit grip & promotes understeer as you are accelerating.
Why? I don't know the physics of it but my guess is a shorter leverage bar so it is promoting more roll on the narrower end.



Well at least my main issue with the truck is exit corners with the rear but i have not tried it without the center brace and diffrent Front tires. Going to get the Green springs this week or so.


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