Kyosho Ultima RB6 & RB6.6 Car Thread
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#9796
Tech Elite
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Soliciting opinions for stock 17.5 spur gear setup:
1) Use the slipper clutch
Pros: extended gearbox life, better traction, smoother feel
Cons: less responsive, car feels "slower"
2) Lock the slipper down/spur gear hub
Pros: less rotating mass (hub), responsive throttle
Cons: stresses gearbox components, abrupt throttle input
I've locked mine down for the last year but a local pro suggested I let the slipper do it's job (actually set it to slip). Buggy feels smoother but not quite as fast...probably due to the decreased throttle response. How do you have yours set up?
1) Use the slipper clutch
Pros: extended gearbox life, better traction, smoother feel
Cons: less responsive, car feels "slower"
2) Lock the slipper down/spur gear hub
Pros: less rotating mass (hub), responsive throttle
Cons: stresses gearbox components, abrupt throttle input
I've locked mine down for the last year but a local pro suggested I let the slipper do it's job (actually set it to slip). Buggy feels smoother but not quite as fast...probably due to the decreased throttle response. How do you have yours set up?
As per one setup being faster than the other: check the stopwatch. The stopwatch never lies.
Now - if you run faster lap times with a locked slipper than with a properly setup one, there's something "different" with your driving
Paul
#9797
Tech Addict
iTrader: (38)
I ran my car last night with the gull wing arms. Went 21.5 and previous best was 21.9 and went a 14 5.15 previous best was 13 5.02. In the main had a good lead then had a wreck in the triple and dropped to 4th then made some passes and got 2nd. Happy overall with the change.
#9798
Got a taste of mid motor with a C4.2. Sold it for a B5. Now I'm looking at the RB6. How is it hooking up mid motor? I will be running it in stock class. I see the rear ballstud in mid motor cant be removed? How are you guys dealing with that? Might get this or possibly the serpent for indoor clay. Thanks.
#9799
Tech Regular
Got a taste of mid motor with a C4.2. Sold it for a B5. Now I'm looking at the RB6. How is it hooking up mid motor? I will be running it in stock class. I see the rear ballstud in mid motor cant be removed? How are you guys dealing with that? Might get this or possibly the serpent for indoor clay. Thanks.
#9800
Super Moderator
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Alright guys tell me what I'm getting into, just bought an RB6, I've only driven AE cars. Is the steering as fast? What about traction? I know the shock package is out of this world. I was really excited about the B5 but the two chassis thing really turned me off so I decided to make the switch. Really excited to get some wheel time with my Kyosho.
As for traction, in rear motor you will obviously have more but if you do go mid motor I have always felt the stock gull-wing arms will give more traction than the straight across arms. Now your track might dictate otherwise but that is what I noticed on my car.
Got a taste of mid motor with a C4.2. Sold it for a B5. Now I'm looking at the RB6. How is it hooking up mid motor? I will be running it in stock class. I see the rear ballstud in mid motor cant be removed? How are you guys dealing with that? Might get this or possibly the serpent for indoor clay. Thanks.
Hooking up, well if you look at my previous comment you can see what I said about the difference in arms. My suggestion is to stick with the stock rear arms unless the track has a lot of bite in it. Then maybe try the 521 or 521-1 rear arms. The only difference is that the 521-1 has one shock mount hole in it whereas the 521 has two. The 521-1 hole is in between the 521.
#9802
Whats best for mid config? Shorty or saddle and esc in front or back? Running on clay. Will play with both battery's but dont feel like moving the esc around. Thanks.
#9806
Alright guys tell me what I'm getting into, just bought an RB6, I've only driven AE cars. Is the steering as fast? What about traction? I know the shock package is out of this world. I was really excited about the B5 but the two chassis thing really turned me off so I decided to make the switch. Really excited to get some wheel time with my Kyosho.
The biggest thing you need to do is pick RM/MM, flat vs gull (kit) rear arms, then battery type, then chassis layout, then shock pistons and oil. I would suggest starting with gold rear and pink front springs regardless.
What type of track do you run on? That will really determine what to do. For example, if you run on a blown out outdoor track, I would suggest rear motor with saddles. If you run indoor with low traction, then rear motor with a shorty or saddle. If you run indoor with medium grip, then that is kinda the tipping point where you want to start doing more high grip setup options like flat arms, mid motor, and shorty pack. High grip indoor is pretty much mid motor with flat arms and shorty with the speedo behind it.
There's a lot to consider when you pick a configuration here. What's it like where you run?
I'll give you an example of my setup and why I run it. I run mid motor with flat arms, generally considered a "high grip setup", but our track is generally medium, and sometimes low grip, so as a stop gap, I run a saddle pack all the way back with the motor guard/stiffner ground down a bit like Jared and team ran at cactus before. This gives me a great car most of the time that is still drivable when the traction goes away. I run the kit 5 hole pistons because our track gets super bumpy and currently has small jumps. If the track was smoother, the 4 x 1.3 (#55) pistons actually feel better, but are not forgiving on bumps.
Wayne
#9808
Razathorn! Didnt know you were driving the Kyosho. I did use one of your setups from your B4.2 on my B4.2. It worked great at my track. Only made some minor adjustments. Would love to see what you are doing with the RB6.
My track goes from Medium grip but dusty to very high grip. We go from full treaded clay compound tires to dremeled slicks. Indoor clay. Track is a little bumpy.
First thing I need to decide is where to put the esc and which battery to run with mid motor. I just bought two new saddle packs and kind of want to use those but I also have two perfectly good shorty's.
My track goes from Medium grip but dusty to very high grip. We go from full treaded clay compound tires to dremeled slicks. Indoor clay. Track is a little bumpy.
First thing I need to decide is where to put the esc and which battery to run with mid motor. I just bought two new saddle packs and kind of want to use those but I also have two perfectly good shorty's.
#9810
I run indoor low traction and felt the gull wings made the car lethargic and less responsive overall. But I guess you need to factor in driving style.
Full size lipo is too heavy whichever way you go IMHO
Cheers,
Full size lipo is too heavy whichever way you go IMHO
Cheers,