172LikesKyosho Ultima RB6 & RB6.6 Car Thread
12-21-2016, 08:46 AM - Wikipost
|
|||
|
|||
|
10-14-2013, 01:36 PM
#8417
thats a lotta toe in! i might rm on first outing, if i dont have time to switch to mm in the meantime. when i ran my durango in beginning of year, i got the panther super softs dialed really nicely. nevertheless i'll slick some m4's this week. thanks for all the help mike!
10-14-2013, 04:08 PM
#8421
I did add 1mm under the front holder, the rear should have been whatever was stock, .5mm I believe, I forgot to check that, and I wasn't sure what the dg would calculate too. I didn't try it back to back without it, but that setup as a whole was good, so I didn't feel the need.
10-14-2013, 05:39 PM
#8422
I did add 1mm under the front holder, the rear should have been whatever was stock, .5mm I believe, I forgot to check that, and I wasn't sure what the dg would calculate too. I didn't try it back to back without it, but that setup as a whole was good, so I didn't feel the need.
10-14-2013, 06:20 PM
#8423
I did add 1mm under the front holder, the rear should have been whatever was stock, .5mm I believe, I forgot to check that, and I wasn't sure what the dg would calculate too. I didn't try it back to back without it, but that setup as a whole was good, so I didn't feel the need.
For example, the rear end seems weird. You have increased forward bite by adding more squat to 3 degrees, but then you add toe, have a .5 spacer on the bulkhead, and a 2mm on the outside to then stiffen up the rear end up again. Plus you are running 5wt thicker oil up front, and that could be because of the pistons, but then you run the rear end up 2mm higher than normal.
I just am trying to figure out how you got to that point, because it seems awfully unbalanced in terms of adjustments that do something, but then you are doing other things to counter act those things. lol
Anyway if you could fill me in Id love to hear it.
10-14-2013, 07:15 PM
#8424
10-15-2013, 06:31 AM
#8426
Do you mind if I ask you some questions about your setup? I've been looking at it, and it's just very odd to me.
For example, the rear end seems weird. You have increased forward bite by adding more squat to 3 degrees, but then you add toe, have a .5 spacer on the bulkhead, and a 2mm on the outside to then stiffen up the rear end up again. Plus you are running 5wt thicker oil up front, and that could be because of the pistons, but then you run the rear end up 2mm higher than normal.
I just am trying to figure out how you got to that point, because it seems awfully unbalanced in terms of adjustments that do something, but then you are doing other things to counter act those things. lol
Anyway if you could fill me in Id love to hear it.
For example, the rear end seems weird. You have increased forward bite by adding more squat to 3 degrees, but then you add toe, have a .5 spacer on the bulkhead, and a 2mm on the outside to then stiffen up the rear end up again. Plus you are running 5wt thicker oil up front, and that could be because of the pistons, but then you run the rear end up 2mm higher than normal.
I just am trying to figure out how you got to that point, because it seems awfully unbalanced in terms of adjustments that do something, but then you are doing other things to counter act those things. lol
Anyway if you could fill me in Id love to hear it.
One of the local AE Factory guys who runs at his track was telling me this weekend that they are down to 17mm ride height, almost no droop, and a set of slicks every weekend. They do stuff to their cars there that just isn't done anywhere else in the world... hence Area 51.
10-15-2013, 06:47 AM
#8427
Bobs right. Long island it the land of setups that shouldn't work. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. If it works there........may mike reedy have mercy on your soul
10-15-2013, 06:48 AM
#8428
Do you mind if I ask you some questions about your setup? I've been looking at it, and it's just very odd to me.
For example, the rear end seems weird. You have increased forward bite by adding more squat to 3 degrees, but then you add toe, have a .5 spacer on the bulkhead, and a 2mm on the outside to then stiffen up the rear end up again. Plus you are running 5wt thicker oil up front, and that could be because of the pistons, but then you run the rear end up 2mm higher than normal.
The shocks are easy, I only could get one set of blanks, and I really am not fond of the stock 5H pistons, the holes are too large imo, so thicker oil and higher ride height was for handling a bad landing we had on an old layout. (our current layout has one jump as well where you can land in the wrong spot and a bad bounce will put you on your lid). I much prefer the GHEA 4x1.3 tapered.
0 dg rear toe would have been better in 17.5 with this setup, as it had plenty of bite, but remember we run on full slicks and often traction roll, its kind of a balance choosing how much steering you can run. I also don't claim it to be a perfect setup, but it worked for me.
The rear camber link has not been touched beside moving from the 2 and 3 hole spots, I have not played with inside/outside link height, the height was from another fast driver, and I left it. The antisquat was not tested back to back, as I switched to MM for a while, and added it back in when I went to RM for an outdoor race.
I just am trying to figure out how you got to that point, because it seems awfully unbalanced in terms of adjustments that do something, but then you are doing other things to counter act those things. lol
This is very possible, I can't get down to the track every week and really test every change, plus the track gets better throughout the night and you don't always know if the change helped, or if the track did.
Anyway if you could fill me in Id love to hear it.
For example, the rear end seems weird. You have increased forward bite by adding more squat to 3 degrees, but then you add toe, have a .5 spacer on the bulkhead, and a 2mm on the outside to then stiffen up the rear end up again. Plus you are running 5wt thicker oil up front, and that could be because of the pistons, but then you run the rear end up 2mm higher than normal.
The shocks are easy, I only could get one set of blanks, and I really am not fond of the stock 5H pistons, the holes are too large imo, so thicker oil and higher ride height was for handling a bad landing we had on an old layout. (our current layout has one jump as well where you can land in the wrong spot and a bad bounce will put you on your lid). I much prefer the GHEA 4x1.3 tapered.
0 dg rear toe would have been better in 17.5 with this setup, as it had plenty of bite, but remember we run on full slicks and often traction roll, its kind of a balance choosing how much steering you can run. I also don't claim it to be a perfect setup, but it worked for me.
The rear camber link has not been touched beside moving from the 2 and 3 hole spots, I have not played with inside/outside link height, the height was from another fast driver, and I left it. The antisquat was not tested back to back, as I switched to MM for a while, and added it back in when I went to RM for an outdoor race.
I just am trying to figure out how you got to that point, because it seems awfully unbalanced in terms of adjustments that do something, but then you are doing other things to counter act those things. lol
This is very possible, I can't get down to the track every week and really test every change, plus the track gets better throughout the night and you don't always know if the change helped, or if the track did.
Anyway if you could fill me in Id love to hear it.
10-15-2013, 06:52 AM
#8429
he runs at Area 51 LOL.
One of the local AE Factory guys who runs at his track was telling me this weekend that they are down to 17mm ride height, almost no droop, and a set of slicks every weekend. They do stuff to their cars there that just isn't done anywhere else in the world... hence Area 51.
One of the local AE Factory guys who runs at his track was telling me this weekend that they are down to 17mm ride height, almost no droop, and a set of slicks every weekend. They do stuff to their cars there that just isn't done anywhere else in the world... hence Area 51.
The car did have moments of being really good though.
10-16-2013, 08:40 AM
#8430
Has anyone tried the rear stabilizer set? I am thinking of ordering one and wanted to get some input. Our indoor track is by no means high bite and can dusty/bumpy so I am not sure if it is worth trying or not...