Traxxas 2wd Slash Thread
#1936
If you didnt like the suspension, obviously the shocks were not assembled the way they work best. If you did it according to the instructions, they dont work right. Follow Matts instructions and they are the best around.
MIP needs to revise their instructions for the shock build.
MIP needs to revise their instructions for the shock build.
#1937
Tech Rookie
i love my bypass 1 in my t4.1. with stock rtr shocks in rebound running avid 12mm yellow springs f&r with 30wt in front and 25wt in rear. 30mm ride height front 28mm rear tires are green bar codes. the truck turns very well in the blue groove and when it gets into the dust out of the groove its still controlable i do bottom out easly if i dont time the jumps corectly. ill take that to be able to easly pass others in the turns. im the only one at my track using bypass 1 in stadium truck there mostly used in sc.
#1938
matt i should be getting my mip kit tomorrow since i run oval do i need to install the bypass in the shocks?
#1939
Eclip
MIP Pisotn
MIP valve
MIP washer
Eclip.
The MIP CVD's Vs. AE CVA's is also different. The tolarnces/wear is different as well as handling characteristics. CVD's create more mechanical traction in the corner and CVA's are more free.
Hope this helps.
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That JC body works awesome! And tell us how it goes congrats on the buy
MATT,Body does seem nice...the MIP set-up did seem not to have enough up/down travel.I did drilled the orginal TLR tower holes.glad I did..I run on a outdoor track and went with the orginal losi holes in the towers,stock #3 pistons,losi F/R springs with 27.5 oil on all 4's and I was plenty hooked up after that...seems to me for MY outdoor tracks the chassi layout was the only up- grade from this kit that worked for me...Anyways,nice chassi layout,works well...
MATT,Body does seem nice...the MIP set-up did seem not to have enough up/down travel.I did drilled the orginal TLR tower holes.glad I did..I run on a outdoor track and went with the orginal losi holes in the towers,stock #3 pistons,losi F/R springs with 27.5 oil on all 4's and I was plenty hooked up after that...seems to me for MY outdoor tracks the chassi layout was the only up- grade from this kit that worked for me...Anyways,nice chassi layout,works well...
If you didnt like the suspension, obviously the shocks were not assembled the way they work best. If you did it according to the instructions, they dont work right. Follow Matts instructions and they are the best around.
MIP needs to revise their instructions for the shock build.
MIP needs to revise their instructions for the shock build.
i love my bypass 1 in my t4.1. with stock rtr shocks in rebound running avid 12mm yellow springs f&r with 30wt in front and 25wt in rear. 30mm ride height front 28mm rear tires are green bar codes. the truck turns very well in the blue groove and when it gets into the dust out of the groove its still controlable i do bottom out easly if i dont time the jumps corectly. ill take that to be able to easly pass others in the turns. im the only one at my track using bypass 1 in stadium truck there mostly used in sc.
Dialed! The Bypass1 Kit is something you will need to play with. I have good base setups for you guys but I'm by far not a Oval guy . I would throw on your normal setup and go from there. Try the Bypass1 pistons when you have a day or two to test setup.
#1941
The MIP ones are 1/16, I'm not intirely positive on what the Kyosho ones were, but if you'd like to replace the MIP steel ones with ceramic or something like that I believe Avid offers thrust balls as well. The center gear balls are the same for kyosho/MIP.
#1942
Tech Adept
Matt, how about some CVDs for the Associated Prolite?
#1944
Tech Adept
Issue with losi MIP scte. Iam still fighting with understeering. How I could get maximum turning while accelerating out of curve. Track is very smooth and has moderate grip. There is picture earlier in this thread.
standard Losi Scte, Durango Desc410 and Tekno SCT is much quicker in turns. My car feels like frontwheel driven.. I can go full throttle and car won't spin it only push like maniac.
I have tried almost every setup what I can imagine. I just think that MIP is too rear heavy...
standard Losi Scte, Durango Desc410 and Tekno SCT is much quicker in turns. My car feels like frontwheel driven.. I can go full throttle and car won't spin it only push like maniac.
I have tried almost every setup what I can imagine. I just think that MIP is too rear heavy...
#1946
Tech Adept
Setup
http://speedy.sh/p8mQX/MIP-Sami-1.pdf
I have rear toe same as standard SCTE and anti squat at maximum.
Car weights about 2700 +-50gr dependin on battery. I dont have rear bumber to shift weight more to front.
Car has weight balance about 45% on front and 55% rear.
I have standard pistons and shock towers.
http://speedy.sh/p8mQX/MIP-Sami-1.pdf
I have rear toe same as standard SCTE and anti squat at maximum.
Car weights about 2700 +-50gr dependin on battery. I dont have rear bumber to shift weight more to front.
Car has weight balance about 45% on front and 55% rear.
I have standard pistons and shock towers.
#1947
Setup
http://speedy.sh/p8mQX/MIP-Sami-1.pdf
I have rear toe same as standard SCTE and anti squat at maximum.
Car weights about 2700 +-50gr dependin on battery. I dont have rear bumber to shift weight more to front.
Car has weight balance about 45% on front and 55% rear.
I have standard pistons and shock towers.
http://speedy.sh/p8mQX/MIP-Sami-1.pdf
I have rear toe same as standard SCTE and anti squat at maximum.
Car weights about 2700 +-50gr dependin on battery. I dont have rear bumber to shift weight more to front.
Car has weight balance about 45% on front and 55% rear.
I have standard pistons and shock towers.
#1948
Tech Master
iTrader: (49)
Well I'm back from a 6 month hiatus and ready to get my truck back on track. When I first got the MIP kit I was the first person in my area to get it. Put it on the track for the final part of our club summer series and tore it up. Won all my quals and took 4th in the Amain against some sponsored drivers. Now, everyone has it (copy cats muhahaha).....
Changing up my setup, I decided to get the holes in my shock towers drilled out. I'm using Matt's setup from SMACTRAC. Just curious, he lists the rear springs as green, do you mean green fronts or green rear springs? I was thinking about checking out his motorama setup as this normally is the conditions at my track on practice days.
Anyone have a video of the motorama 4wd short course A main?
Changing up my setup, I decided to get the holes in my shock towers drilled out. I'm using Matt's setup from SMACTRAC. Just curious, he lists the rear springs as green, do you mean green fronts or green rear springs? I was thinking about checking out his motorama setup as this normally is the conditions at my track on practice days.
Anyone have a video of the motorama 4wd short course A main?
#1949
Tech Adept
Personally I didn't like how the vehicle drove without the rear bumper. I cut the mud flaps off to save some weight but like it much better with the rear bumper on. There are many ways in setup to transfer weight forward while driving but think it's important to have the bumper there in the rear to help with traction.
#1950
Tech Master
iTrader: (49)
I dont use the bumper...i just use the little peice that the bottom screws connect to.
Whats the track conditions? Loose? What surface? Clay? If you want more ON power steering you can also play with your diff fluids.
Try laying the shocks down? Lighter oil? Remove the sway bar where you want more traction?
Tons of things...you can get it setup, just need time to play with it. I have my gear packed up ready to go to change my setup at the track tomorrow. Remember though, one step at a time, drop it on the track, see how it does and adjust from there.
I never really use someones full setup....i use it as a base and adjust from there. Find a setup that best matches the conditions you race on. Drive it, hell, if you have local pros, let them drive it....ask them questions.
Ask any of my local friends....when i go to the track, i spend more time fixing or helping others than i do my own gear. People (like myself) love when we can share our useless knowledge with others hahahahaa....get out there, ask questions. LHS is a good place also. We have some pretty good racers in our local shops. The shop i go to is owned by a Futaba driver. Nice guy...always will give advice, shows his setup, gives tire advice.
Whats the track conditions? Loose? What surface? Clay? If you want more ON power steering you can also play with your diff fluids.
Try laying the shocks down? Lighter oil? Remove the sway bar where you want more traction?
Tons of things...you can get it setup, just need time to play with it. I have my gear packed up ready to go to change my setup at the track tomorrow. Remember though, one step at a time, drop it on the track, see how it does and adjust from there.
I never really use someones full setup....i use it as a base and adjust from there. Find a setup that best matches the conditions you race on. Drive it, hell, if you have local pros, let them drive it....ask them questions.
Ask any of my local friends....when i go to the track, i spend more time fixing or helping others than i do my own gear. People (like myself) love when we can share our useless knowledge with others hahahahaa....get out there, ask questions. LHS is a good place also. We have some pretty good racers in our local shops. The shop i go to is owned by a Futaba driver. Nice guy...always will give advice, shows his setup, gives tire advice.