Hey guys, I'm trying to decide between an 811e 2.0 and a TLR Eight 3.0. Without bashing me and telling me to read the whole thread can you guys tell me ho the car handles, etc. Thanks in advance.

It really feels like a big 10th scale car with a ton of power. It is quiet, unlike the other electric hedge trimmers on the market. Last year I was running it in practice on the smallest indoor track you could imagine and it rotated around the corners better than any other 1/8 scale. Yet when the same setup was used outdoors the car wasn’t twitchy at all. It has the lowest CG of any car on the market because the batteries are as low as possible. The car is strong and so is the drivetrain so minimal parts will be necessary to have on hand. It is also only one of 2 or 3 purpose built 1/8 electric cars and not a conversion of the nitro counterpart.

You will probably be happy with either car as they are both good cars. But, Hands down the serpent is made of better quality material.

I prefer the handling of the Serpent car over the Losi personally. I LOVE the way the Serpent pivots around tight corners. I also prefer the way Serpent car jumps and lands.

While the serpent will require less maintenance (Outdrives, Diffs, axles etc.) In my opinion it can be a little bit of a pain to work on.

An other big plus is the fact that you can get on here and talk to the Team Manager and get help. Serpent will always take care of you if you have any issues which is great.

I hope that helps a little. They are both good cars and I don't think you can go wrong either way.

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your answers.

Yeah the serpent. Crew are awerson guys to have chat with I try both plus mugen and tekno and I am coming back to serpent again as I feel it is a much better car for me to drive and its a tank and I am not scared of trying things with the serpent other brand I was in case I break some think when I did one time I broke some think

OK I will try the -2mm's in the rear, I have the 1.0 and it came with 0's all around. As for rear inserts I'm running 5's in the RR RR and 6's in the RR FR.

I am finding that as I try to get the buggy dialed in I'm wanting to tinker with too many things at once. Trying to stick now to only 1 thing at a time, and run at few packs before doing anything else.

Haha sound like me mate lol

-2s in the rear are used on the version 2 rear end because the arms are wider and these narrow the car back to normal.

For the 1.0 0 hexes are what you want. You can try the -2 but I don't know if it will be an improvement or not. You'll have to try it.

So got the 811 out this weekend. Track was loamy and damp in the morning, turning to dusty hard pack later in the day. Traction was low to medium.

Went in with a handful of new things to try. I did dump the Fioroni pistons and went to Max's setup with 1.4 and 1.3/1.4 stock pistons, same oil, same springs. Biggest difference is running 7/10/5 in the diffs. Car was drivable, but back end was not planted, especially on hard acceleration out of the corners, much more so where it was off-camber or rutted. Started making changes. Went from 30wt to 25wt in the rear shocks, several spring changes front and rear, raised the rear roll center, upper shock mounts, etc. By the end, the back end was a little better, but still nowhere near what the 2 MP9's I drove were. It jumped extremely well, and was able to rotate the car under breaking to dive in under other cars in the corners. The 2 issues were accelerating onto the 2 straights and the back end washing out (one off camber, the other rutted), and one bump section that was a small triple leading into some random bumps. If I landed between the triple and the bumps, and ran light throttle, I was ok. If the car landed in the bumps, or I tried to accelerate or brake in them, the car went wonky.

I did not have any spare diffs with me, but I am assuming that the bumps section is due more to the 10k center diff, though the 7k front maybe as well. Some suggested lowering the rear also to 3k from 5k also. All V1 diffs.

Car overall was fun though, qualified 6th in the B, finished 9th due to a bad tire change choice (switched between rounds, and was good before they blew off the track, then side bite was too high and traction rolled) and some unlucky marshalling. I am enjoying making the changes and feeling what they do. I am enjoying less the gallon of shock oil necessary for an oil change, but such is 8th scale. :)

I did also get to try the light blue kyosho springs that are so touted. At least with the oil/piston package I had, they were not good for me, both in the bumps and over the smaller jumps. Back to the V1 Serpent springs I have and was much more consistent.

For The. V1. Diff The most I like 5 7 3 oils. And I find one thing, they do not like if you fill to them to much oil.
When I fill less oil diffs started to work better.

ordered today
 

ordered mine from DESOTO RACING today! thanks PAUL

well my serpent 811be 2.0 on its way yippie

nice!! you guys are gonna love this car! ive had mine now for a few weeks and its really starting to come in for me. driveability is insane, super smooth, and very durable on those rough club race nights where everyone has 2400kv motors for a indoor track lol. nice choice guys!

hey guys what do you think motor I should get for a large outdoor track 1/8 scale