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Cain 07-07-2011 09:12 AM

thanks. Will add that to the list.

So for those who use the HT pads, do you use 2 pads at once, or just 1 on the outside,etc?

Also, does anyone have a list of things they recommend to purchase as far as upgrades to what the sc10 4x4 comes with out of the box when going with 550 motor power?

So Far I am thinking:

- ASC91170 HT pads
- ASC7495 Vented Slipper hubs (is this needed?)


Anything else?

Matt Howard 07-07-2011 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 9357235)
thanks. Will add that to the list.

So for those who use the HT pads, do you use 2 pads at once, or just 1 on the outside,etc?

just one on the outside

maddysdaddy 07-07-2011 09:35 AM

Got the trackstar O's in last night. 10x smoother on the bench, we'll see on the track. Took the slipper apart for the 15th time, pads were fully shiny after 2 runs the other day. C'mon clutch basket, get here and save me!!!!

Cain 07-07-2011 09:35 AM

for slipper pad setup on the clutch basket, what in general are people going with? (ie- 2 standard pads and 1 high torque pad, etc)

Any need for the vented slipper hub at all with the clutch basket using 550 motor power?

JFuel11 07-07-2011 09:41 AM

HD Pads
 
I am currenlty running a standard pad on the inner hub for front drive and two HD pads in the clutch basket. I really like this setup and it seems to keep the temps down on the slipper and the pads have been lasting much much longer under the 550 motor.

Cain 07-07-2011 09:50 AM

thanks for the info. Definitely will have to look into the clutch basket more. Are you using the vented slipper hub?

Does everyone using it feel its worth the $35?

JayL 07-07-2011 09:53 AM

Can we all measure the thickness of every part in the slipper assembly, including top shaft and thread length and compare?

I am wondering if thickness vaiance is causing this.

I am running a tekin 4.5T 550 on ASPHALT with jumps and have no slipper issues or changes during the run, 3.8mm, rear HD pad and vented plate

I will measure mine tonite

JFuel11 07-07-2011 09:53 AM

Yes
 

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 9357398)
thanks for the info. Definitely will have to look into the clutch basket more.

Does everyone using it feel its worth the $35?

I will be honest that it seems a bit high but it includes shipping and once I bolted it to the truck... YES it was worth every penny! This weekend I had the only truck that could clear a big set of trips that had almost no run up to it. Last week there was no way I could make it and the only item change on the truck was the slipper setup. Keep in mind I almost had it locked down and spring fully compressed with HD rear pad prior to the upgrade.

With the basket setup I could still pull the trip even at the end of the 8 min. main. Something I could only have dreamed of doing with the stock slipper setup.

Cain 07-07-2011 10:04 AM

Thanks for the info.

So, any opinions on the vented slipper hub? Are they necessary for 550 motor usage without without the basket? :confused:

Aoh 07-07-2011 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 9357398)
thanks for the info. Definitely will have to look into the clutch basket more. Are you using the vented slipper hub?

Does everyone using it feel its worth the $35?

if u consider how much intricate machining was done, well worth it.

CentralCoaster 07-07-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Eli (Post 9356144)
wow dude, correct me if im wrong but didnt you win with your truck on its maiden voyage... i know thats not sating a lot after marshaling for the 4x4 amain tonight but it did get you to the finish first.
I think you may be the stoner drop out kevin :lol: just kidding man

Sorry, PUI, lol. But honestly this issue stuck out like a sore thumb from day 1 but the AE guy i talked to said it wasnt a problem.

Robotech 07-07-2011 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by CentralCoaster (Post 9357568)
Sorry, PUI, lol. But honestly this issue stuck out like a sore thumb from day 1 but the AE guy i talked to said it wasnt a problem.

Got to remember that you have to do manufacturer math with these kinds of things.

Say 400 kits went out the first month and 300 the second. That's 700 kits out there.

Of those, let's say Associated gets 60 calls regarding loose shock screws and about 30 on low diff fluid. Thus out of 700 kits, 60-90 had these issues. That's a 8.6-12.9% failure rate. That's going to get Associated's attention. Now, problem is, that the kits that are shipping out today were probably ordered and the instructions on how these parts are to be assembled were done three months ago! That means even if they call production TODAY and tell them to make the changes those kits probably won't be seen on store shelves for 2-3 months from now.

Now the issue with the slipper pads is probably a far smaller % than the issues with the shocks and diffs. After all, almost every person who has this kit AND has posted on this thread have had the diff/shock issue (which is still probably only a very small percentage of the owners out there) while only a handful are complaining about the slipper issue. So let's say Associated gets 5-10 calls on the slipper. That's a 0.7 - 1.4% failure rate. To a manufacturer like Associated, that equals "wasn't a problem".

Please note, I don't know Associated's actual sales, production or customer complaint numbers. I'm drawing from my own experiance in the industry and laying out a possible scenario as to why Associated would claim the slippers aren't a problem.

bob o 07-07-2011 11:27 AM

To those that have ordered and have received the clutch pack, what was the delivery turn around time?
Bob

cmenard 07-07-2011 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by bob o (Post 9357778)
To those that have ordered and have received the clutch pack, what was the delivery turn around time?
Bob

I ordered mine on Tuesday of this week. I'll let you know when it gets here. ;)

T-BirdJunkie 07-07-2011 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Robotech (Post 9357748)
Got to remember that you have to do manufacturer math with these kinds of things.

Say 400 kits went out the first month and 300 the second. That's 700 kits out there.

Of those, let's say Associated gets 60 calls regarding loose shock screws and about 30 on low diff fluid. Thus out of 700 kits, 60-90 had these issues. That's a 8.6-12.9% failure rate. That's going to get Associated's attention. Now, problem is, that the kits that are shipping out today were probably ordered and the instructions on how these parts are to be assembled were done three months ago! That means even if they call production TODAY and tell them to make the changes those kits probably won't be seen on store shelves for 2-3 months from now.

Now the issue with the slipper pads is probably a far smaller % than the issues with the shocks and diffs. After all, almost every person who has this kit AND has posted on this thread have had the diff/shock issue (which is still probably only a very small percentage of the owners out there) while only a handful are complaining about the slipper issue. So let's say Associated gets 5-10 calls on the slipper. That's a 0.7 - 1.4% failure rate. To a manufacturer like Associated, that equals "wasn't a problem".

Please note, I don't know Associated's actual sales, production or customer complaint numbers. I'm drawing from my own experiance in the industry and laying out a possible scenario as to why Associated would claim the slippers aren't a problem.

Let's not forget that historically, actual PARTS issues weren't solved until the Factory Team version came out.


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