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tom2tone 09-12-2012 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by -WHEELMAN- (Post 11202868)
I'd in the stock one to keep any flex it's giving. Add 80 grams up front and 60 in the rear under the slipper. Like the Maifield setup!


Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore (Post 11202942)
Chassis is the same if you get the version 2. Same holes and everything, just bolts right up. The chassis is 5oz heavier if that helps you.
I doubt your gonna actually new much more weight than that.


Thanks guys for the help! I think I'll add weights first and go from there. Where are people adding weights in the front?

SC Shaun 09-12-2012 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by tom2tone (Post 11204012)
Where are people adding weights in the front?

:weird::weird::weird:


:flaming::flaming:

JEFFs SC10 09-12-2012 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by tom2tone (Post 11204012)
Thanks guys for the help! I think I'll add weights first and go from there. Where are people adding weights in the front?

I use the brass weights that Maifield uses, and stick them near the front part of the chassis on each side.

How much you need really depends on you. Depending which chassis you use, how much drag brake, center diff all factors in.

Put 20 grams in and take it on the track and jump with it, then go up by 10 grams till you have it where it jumps level to nose down.

It's all trial by error.

xDIRTYx 09-12-2012 08:46 PM

15ish pages back you guys were discussing lipo's and chargers. I have a few questions on this subject and figured you guys seem to be the most helpful ive seen on here, i thought id ask.

Im tired of charging at 5a and it taking an hour to charge, so im looking to upgrade my charger. Id like to have the ability to charge at 20a and possibly 2 at a time, but that is not a necessity. I like the idea of ac/dc and not having to haul around an inverter but im pretty sure dc is the way to go to get full power. Do you guys have any suggestions? (keep in mind im still pretty new to all this lipo business:lol:)

I already made the mistake of not getting the right one the first time so im willing to spend some coin if needed this time around.

Thanks guys

SC Shaun 09-12-2012 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by xDIRTYx (Post 11204755)
15ish pages back you guys were discussing lipo's and chargers. I have a few questions on this subject and figured you guys seem to be the most helpful ive seen on here, i thought id ask.

Im tired of charging at 5a and it taking an hour to charge, so im looking to upgrade my charger. Id like to have the ability to charge at 20a and possibly 2 at a time, but that is not a necessity. I like the idea of ac/dc and not having to haul around an inverter but im pretty sure dc is the way to go to get full power. Do you guys have any suggestions? (keep in mind im still pretty new to all this lipo business:lol:)

I already made the mistake of not getting the right one the first time so im willing to spend some coin if needed this time around.

Thanks guys

Your Batteries REQUIRE the ability to be fast charged as well, a charger is not the only aspect required. If you fast charge a non-fast charge lipo, it will destroy itself.

You must have:
2c+ charge rate batteries (NOT to be confused with c burst rating. (90c)
5A+ Dual charger
A 40A+ power supply to support that kind of required amps.


There is no charger that will charge 20amps with AC/DC. Anything that tells you that is either 500.00 or lying. FYI.

http://pics.towerhobbies.com/image/h/hrcp4170.jpg
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCEYW&P=ML

- To use this charger at it's capable 20amps per side, you will require a 45amp or more Power supply. Those are roughly priced around 175.00 and up. There are people who modify Server power supplies to become cheap PS's for use. Guides are available by a search. For a little education: You require 3-5amps MORE than what your charger will suck out of the power supply to keep the system running.

25A PS - 11 amps per side, 3 buffer
15A PS - 6 amps per side, 3 buffer
etc

Remember, When you fast charge, you must ALWAYS be balancing as well.

sugs 09-12-2012 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by MikeR (Post 11202554)
Hi All,

New tuning option for the SC10 4X4- took me awhile but now finally ready to go;

http://www.exotekracing.com/sc10-4x4-rear-hub-set/

Thanks for your support!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/7...66a80f51_c.jpg


Nice work, about time someone did this. I've been waiting for AE to come out with an updated rear hub but that may never happen. Now we aren't stuck with just stock height or +8mm.

xDIRTYx 09-12-2012 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by SC Shaun (Post 11204811)
Your Batteries REQUIRE the ability to be fast charged as well, a charger is not the only aspect required. If you fast charge a non-fast charge lipo, it will destroy itself.

You must have:
2c+ charge rate batteries (NOT to be confused with c burst rating. (90c)
5A+ Dual charger
A 40A+ power supply to support that kind of required amps.


There is no charger that will charge 20amps with AC/DC. Anything that tells you that is either 500.00 or lying. FYI.

http://pics.towerhobbies.com/image/h/hrcp4170.jpg
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCEYW&P=ML

- To use this charger at it's capable 20amps per side, you will require a 45amp or more Power supply. Those are roughly priced around 175.00 and up. There are people who modify Server power supplies to become cheap PS's for use. Guides are available by a search. For a little education: You require 3-5amps MORE than what your charger will suck out of the power supply to keep the system running.

25A PS - 11 amps per side, 3 buffer
15A PS - 6 amps per side, 3 buffer
etc

Remember, When you fast charge, you must ALWAYS be balancing as well.

THANK YOU!

just the info i was looking for. both my packs have a charge rate of up to 5c. (1 carbon pro & 1 nano-tech) and i think im going to order another nano to beat up on. Ill search out the converted ps stuff.

Cain 09-13-2012 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11204582)
Put 20 grams in and take it on the track and jump with it, then go up by 10 grams till you have it where it jumps level to nose down.

It's all trial by error.

For those who use the exotek chassis, how much weight are you finding you add to the front end? my jumping characteristics are what has been mentioned to look for, but still curious to try out the weights.


Originally Posted by xDIRTYx (Post 11204868)
THANK YOU!

just the info i was looking for. both my packs have a charge rate of up to 5c. (1 carbon pro & 1 nano-tech) and i think im going to order another nano to beat up on. Ill search out the converted ps stuff.

For duo chargers, most I have seen is 20 amps per side. Hyperion makes a single charger that can do 30 amps.

As for power supplies, I have noticed at least that you can find some really good brand name ones from reputable sellers a lot cheaper than what they are new. If on a budget, worth a look.

tom2tone 09-13-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 11204582)
I use the brass weights that Maifield uses, and stick them near the front part of the chassis on each side.

How much you need really depends on you. Depending which chassis you use, how much drag brake, center diff all factors in.

Put 20 grams in and take it on the track and jump with it, then go up by 10 grams till you have it where it jumps level to nose down.

It's all trial by error.

Cool thanks! Right now I've got the original chassis with no drag brake and no c-diff. The only mods I've done are the chassis brace and garodisc with the clutch basket. Then like I said I've got the AE ft upgrade kit on the way.



Dirty- it took me 3 chargers to get it right. I had changed cells and jumped around experimenting. This is what I've got and no need for dual ports. You can daisy chain 2 balance boards or buy the MPA board and charge up to 8s and 6 batts at a time. The sticker shock is tough but this is the safest and fastest charger out there.

Charger:

http://www.usastore.revolectrix.com/...PowerLab-8_394

Power supply:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-30V-40A-1000W

Wild Cherry 09-13-2012 09:04 AM

Cain , Exotech is already way heavier than stock & adding extra weight on the nose will not help change how the truck flies over jumps...

Just saying,
additional weight will only make the jumps more difficult for the truck to achieve..:)

Cain 09-13-2012 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11206251)
Cain , Exotech is already way heavier than stock & adding extra weight on the nose will not help change how the truck flies over jumps...

Just saying,
additional weight will only make the jumps more difficult for the truck to achieve..:)


No prob. I have been running it without any additional weight but was curious if someone else with it has found a benefit.

And the truck jumps excellent for the jumps out here (when the wind doesn't go haywire) ... Now that the exotek is on there :)

Wild Cherry 09-13-2012 09:16 AM

Cain

Weight makes for good traction, does not help jumping though .
Heavier the truck the less distance you can fly & less "pop" over or height....

Can understand you liking the EXo though, you need the grip from the extra weight .

Still...
Bring it to our layout at Trcr, all that weight will behave like a anchor over our bigger jumps ... ( Not good)

ryanpatrickgore 09-13-2012 10:42 AM

Cain,
I have removed all weight from my exotek chassis. Just 1 oz on the left remains. To counter balance my stick pack. Thats all I needed

Big-Bri 09-13-2012 10:45 AM

Love this truck, might be my next purchase.

Cain 09-13-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11206290)
Bring it to our layout at Trcr, all that weight will behave like a anchor over our bigger jumps ... ( Not good)

The losi's don't seem to have that problem over the big jumps on pics I have seen, and here not noticing it at all. It actually feels more stable in the air when the wind picks up, unless its just some massive gust that gets everyone.

But each track can vary.


Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore (Post 11206570)
Cain,
I have removed all weight from my exotek chassis. Just 1 oz on the left remains. To counter balance my stick pack. Thats all I needed

Cool. I run the saddle packs so all set there.


Originally Posted by Big-Bri (Post 11206580)
Love this truck, might be my next purchase.

+1, bought another to get some of the goodies from it and have a buddy who just bought one too.


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