MBX6 ECO Thread
05-30-2011, 07:29 PM
#1696
I just bought an MBX6 eco Monday and ran it for the first time on Saturday. We had a practice/play race at the track I had raced at last weekend. I ran the Mugen box-stock setup. It was real loose so I lengthened the wheelbase and that settled it down somewhat. After one of the heats I went up to the booth and looked at my lap times. I ran a half-dozen laps in that one heat faster than I had EVER run with my old buggy. To say I'm liking the Mugen is an understatement! It's freaking awesome!
05-30-2011, 07:33 PM
#1697
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Congrats on your Mugen. I have no regrets, only wish I would have bought mine sooner!
Labrat, where do you run at?
05-30-2011, 11:43 PM
#1698
learned a few set up tips
hey guys,
I picked up a few set up tips from a few dudes I ran into today at the track.
These guys were smoking fast and seemed to know their buggies.
I was told one was a pro driver but ai didn't get his name.
anyway, on the shocks I moved the lower end to the inner hole making them more upright front and rear, and toed in half a turn on the fronts for more steering.
I also switched springs to 7.75 front and 8.5 rear.
Seemed to clean up my laps and make turns out of jumps easier to manage.
I run a big indoor clay track.
I picked up a few set up tips from a few dudes I ran into today at the track.
These guys were smoking fast and seemed to know their buggies.
I was told one was a pro driver but ai didn't get his name.
anyway, on the shocks I moved the lower end to the inner hole making them more upright front and rear, and toed in half a turn on the fronts for more steering.
I also switched springs to 7.75 front and 8.5 rear.
Seemed to clean up my laps and make turns out of jumps easier to manage.
I run a big indoor clay track.
Last edited by buggy8; 05-31-2011 at 09:19 AM.
05-31-2011, 03:16 AM
#1699
I run all the Houston area tracks. Mike's in Porter, Vertigo/Ultimate R/C in Alvin, and the River Track in Brazoria. There's also a new track about to open up in Katy.
05-31-2011, 10:47 AM
#1700
I have to give Mugen props today because their customer service is awesome. I am having a problem with my buggy making a screechiing sound when going on power and driving like shit. I have torn the thing apart and can't figure out what it is and also had a problem with stripping a bunch of screws and hinge pins, so they are having me send the buggy to them and they are going to fix it. I just have to say thanks to Mugen for being so awesome. If it wasn't for that I don't know what I would do
05-31-2011, 11:06 AM
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I stripped one of the screw on the front upper steering plate. Then I found out about the "heat method". If a screw is extra tight and will not budge, pull out a hair dryer and use it to heat the screw (and area where the threads are). Once it gets warm, it will come loose with almost no effort! The loctite that Mugen uses is more like cement! Have you tried to take out the hex screw that holds the pin going through the wheel hub? It took about 10 minutes of hair dryer time one each hex/wheel hub before the loctite would give up. Anyway, glad to hear that your problems may be behind you! After my first trip to the track, I liked the ECO but it was not set-up for the track conditions that I run on, nor my driving style. Now that I have done some research, made some changes based on suggestions by fellow ECO owners on this thread. I am really seeing that the ECO is a great buggy! Now I wonder if Mugen customer service can fix my driving....
Now I wonder if Mugen customer service can fix my driving....
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05-31-2011, 07:13 PM
#1702
I have to give Mugen props today because their customer service is awesome. I am having a problem with my buggy making a screechiing sound when going on power and driving like shit. I have torn the thing apart and can't figure out what it is and also had a problem with stripping a bunch of screws and hinge pins, so they are having me send the buggy to them and they are going to fix it. I just have to say thanks to Mugen for being so awesome. If it wasn't for that I don't know what I would do
I have been talking to Eddie at RC PRo and he let me take a few laps with his ECO and If you remember you let me take a few laps with your Xray. selling that right? .....Are they (mugen) charging shipping or anything else or are they taking care of it all? Eddie said he had to shim the diffs in his could that be it ....maybe something else...
Randy
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05-31-2011, 08:50 PM
#1703
I have been running my ECO close to box stock for about four months now and have had great luck. Haven't shimed the diffs and have had zero issues. For the first two months I ran exclusively indoor on hard packed medium bite clay. The chassis is unlike another indoor. It drives flat with tons of steering and traction which I could never get both out of any of my old chassis. Then the past two months I've been beating the snot out of this thing outdoor on big low bite American style nitro tracks. Day one outdoor all I did was lighten the suspension raised the ride height and it was good to go!! It is the smoothest most consistent chassis I have ran outdoor. The ECO chassis are built to the highest standard and show on the track! I'd say on the sportsman level this is the chassis to have. It is extremly durable, easy to setup and very forgiving to wheel! I must say thank you to Mugen!!! Truly an epic chassis!!
06-01-2011, 08:41 AM
#1704
John
I have been talking to Eddie at RC PRo and he let me take a few laps with his ECO and If you remember you let me take a few laps with your Xray. selling that right? .....Are they (mugen) charging shipping or anything else or are they taking care of it all? Eddie said he had to shim the diffs in his could that be it ....maybe something else...
Randy
I have been talking to Eddie at RC PRo and he let me take a few laps with his ECO and If you remember you let me take a few laps with your Xray. selling that right? .....Are they (mugen) charging shipping or anything else or are they taking care of it all? Eddie said he had to shim the diffs in his could that be it ....maybe something else...
Randy
I already sold the Xray I just wasn't that happy with it but right now I'm kicking myself because I have no ebuggy to drive
. At least I have my Losi SCTE 4x4s.
06-01-2011, 08:52 AM
#1706
I stripped one of the screw on the front upper steering plate. Then I found out about the "heat method". If a screw is extra tight and will not budge, pull out a hair dryer and use it to heat the screw (and area where the threads are). Once it gets warm, it will come loose with almost no effort!
06-01-2011, 11:35 AM
#1707
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Never tried a soldering iron because it has been said that if it was red loctite, to much heat would actually "set it" more firm?
06-01-2011, 12:10 PM
#1708
I've used a lot of Loctite in my days (full size racing cars) and I have never heard that? Temperature is the universal solvent for loctite.
This shows the highest temp for standard Red loctite is 450 (still pretty hot)
http://www.useloctite.com/products/p...ockinge44e.php
I for one can't think of any reason to use red loctite on a RC Car. Red is for fasteners a whole lot larger that 4mm
If you haven't seen this stuff it's the bomb for RC.
http://www.useloctite.com/products/p...ocking090e.php
Loctite® QuickStix® 248™ Threadlocker Stick
Blue Removable ONLINENEARTDSMSDS
No-drip semi-solid, in a stick applicator
Typical Applications: Ideal for overhead applications
Cure Time: Fixture - 10 min (3 mins w/primer) Full - 24 hrs
This shows the highest temp for standard Red loctite is 450 (still pretty hot)
http://www.useloctite.com/products/p...ockinge44e.php
I for one can't think of any reason to use red loctite on a RC Car. Red is for fasteners a whole lot larger that 4mm
If you haven't seen this stuff it's the bomb for RC.
http://www.useloctite.com/products/p...ocking090e.php
Loctite® QuickStix® 248™ Threadlocker Stick
Blue Removable ONLINENEARTDSMSDS
No-drip semi-solid, in a stick applicator
Typical Applications: Ideal for overhead applications
Cure Time: Fixture - 10 min (3 mins w/primer) Full - 24 hrs
06-01-2011, 12:13 PM
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But it appears that is what Mugen used on several places of my buggy? I cleaned those screws off and went back together with blue loctite.
06-01-2011, 02:54 PM
#1710
Does anyone know if Mugen ECO has a diff upgrade like the Losi 8ight E? Losi calls it the "smart diff". Or maybe the Diff in the Mugen is already upgraded to those specs.