1LikesTLR 22 Racing Buggy Thread
03-12-2013, 12:57 PM
mysupratoy: are you racing Westcoast's Supercross series?
Last edited by Cpt.America; 03-12-2013 at 11:45 PM.
03-12-2013, 01:05 PM
03-12-2013, 01:20 PM
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There are only three things that always increase total cornering power.
A) Tyres that adhere to the surface better
B) Less overall mass
C) A lower CG
This has nothing to do with driveability, only total cornering power
I will repeat myself for the trolls, I (speaking only of myself) have not had issues with forward bite on corner exit. Therefore I don't and wouldn't use that mod, and since it raises my CG it is probably the last tuning option I would use.
I have an "adjustment" for you "ifyouonlyknew":
Take 6 ounces of lead and strap it to the wing, but you can't say you wouldn't try it until you do try it.
A) Tyres that adhere to the surface better
B) Less overall mass
C) A lower CG
This has nothing to do with driveability, only total cornering power
I will repeat myself for the trolls, I (speaking only of myself) have not had issues with forward bite on corner exit. Therefore I don't and wouldn't use that mod, and since it raises my CG it is probably the last tuning option I would use.
I have an "adjustment" for you "ifyouonlyknew":
Take 6 ounces of lead and strap it to the wing, but you can't say you wouldn't try it until you do try it.
Here is a question for you. How long have you been into this hobby? I have been into RC cars for 20+ years. I garuntee I have more experience with this than you, and that you are wrong. There are many other ways to effect the balance of the car than the thing you listed.
03-12-2013, 01:33 PM
The bickering needs to stop now before it gets out of hand, RobEE I sent you a pm about this situation and I don't want to see another comment like you mentioned earlier. You guys need to move on and stay on topic......
03-12-2013, 02:00 PM
Feels like I somehow walked into 4chan and not RCTech.
Anyway....
I have a question for all racers out there.
Do you replace your 22's regularly?
Reason I ask is, mine feels pretty worn out. I am not talking about rebuildable items (shocks.diffs etc) just the whole car feels worn out. I dont know how old it was when I bought it but I have since had it for a year and put about 23 hours on it.
Just curious if I should buy another kit.
Anyway....
I have a question for all racers out there.
Do you replace your 22's regularly?
Reason I ask is, mine feels pretty worn out. I am not talking about rebuildable items (shocks.diffs etc) just the whole car feels worn out. I dont know how old it was when I bought it but I have since had it for a year and put about 23 hours on it.
Just curious if I should buy another kit.
03-12-2013, 02:05 PM
Feels like I somehow walked into 4chan and not RCTech.
Anyway....
I have a question for all racers out there.
Do you replace your 22's regularly?
Reason I ask is, mine feels pretty worn out. I am not talking about rebuildable items (shocks.diffs etc) just the whole car feels worn out. I dont know how old it was when I bought it but I have since had it for a year and put about 23 hours on it.
Just curious if I should buy another kit.
Anyway....
I have a question for all racers out there.
Do you replace your 22's regularly?
Reason I ask is, mine feels pretty worn out. I am not talking about rebuildable items (shocks.diffs etc) just the whole car feels worn out. I dont know how old it was when I bought it but I have since had it for a year and put about 23 hours on it.
Just curious if I should buy another kit.
If the chassis isnt bent you would probably be better off buying new parts. I change out the steering rack and fron nose gaurd about every 4 months and my buggy feel pretty good.
03-12-2013, 02:25 PM
I know some guys who race thier carts for 6 to 8 monthes sell them for a good price and buy new kits. Most of these guys get great deals so its worth it to them.
If the chassis isnt bent you would probably be better off buying new parts. I change out the steering rack and fron nose gaurd about every 4 months and my buggy feel pretty good.
If the chassis isnt bent you would probably be better off buying new parts. I change out the steering rack and fron nose gaurd about every 4 months and my buggy feel pretty good.
The Chassis isnt tweaked as I have replaced that.
Replaced the steering rack.
Replaced front and rear shock towers.
Rebuilt Ball Diff
Rebuilt Shocks (new springs, oil, seals)
But for some reason it still feels worn out, plus the rear shock towers are tweaked, even with the new tower and chassis.
03-12-2013, 02:35 PM
Hmm good to know.
The Chassis isnt tweaked as I have replaced that.
Replaced the steering rack.
Replaced front and rear shock towers.
Rebuilt Ball Diff
Rebuilt Shocks (new springs, oil, seals)
But for some reason it still feels worn out, plus the rear shock towers are tweaked, even with the new tower and chassis.
The Chassis isnt tweaked as I have replaced that.
Replaced the steering rack.
Replaced front and rear shock towers.
Rebuilt Ball Diff
Rebuilt Shocks (new springs, oil, seals)
But for some reason it still feels worn out, plus the rear shock towers are tweaked, even with the new tower and chassis.
03-12-2013, 02:42 PM
I normally go off the outdrives. When the outdrives are wore, I sell it. But it takes a while for me to wear them out. maybe a year plus in 13.5/17.5. Then sell and buy a new car. lets say you can sell yours for $150 and buy new for $279. So for $129 you get a fresh car. How much would a chassis, diff and a few misc parts cost. Keep your alum tlr upgrades if they are in good shape for the new car.
03-12-2013, 02:53 PM
......maybe.
You make a valid and compelling argument.
I normally go off the outdrives. When the outdrives are wore, I sell it. But it takes a while for me to wear them out. maybe a year plus in 13.5/17.5. Then sell and buy a new car. lets say you can sell yours for $150 and buy new for $279. So for $129 you get a fresh car. How much would a chassis, diff and a few misc parts cost. Keep your alum tlr upgrades if they are in good shape for the new car.
03-12-2013, 04:21 PM
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Hmm good to know.
The Chassis isnt tweaked as I have replaced that.
Replaced the steering rack.
Replaced front and rear shock towers.
Rebuilt Ball Diff
Rebuilt Shocks (new springs, oil, seals)
But for some reason it still feels worn out, plus the rear shock towers are tweaked, even with the new tower and chassis.
The Chassis isnt tweaked as I have replaced that.
Replaced the steering rack.
Replaced front and rear shock towers.
Rebuilt Ball Diff
Rebuilt Shocks (new springs, oil, seals)
But for some reason it still feels worn out, plus the rear shock towers are tweaked, even with the new tower and chassis.
03-12-2013, 04:38 PM
I know how to build shocks. and I know its not them.
Guess I want new and shiney things. Oh screw it, Ill order some parts I really cant be bothered building a new car any way
03-12-2013, 09:29 PM
I'm sorry I even responded once and that's enough with the I'm better than you stuff
Last edited by Adamska27; 03-12-2013 at 10:52 PM. Reason: mistake
03-12-2013, 10:49 PM
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All numbers via amain.
22 RTR, 1499g
5600mah Pro-tek lipo, 300g
Car+battery=1799g
First brushless motor I found on amain (new Reedy Sonic 2) 180g=10% of vehicle weight.
Now, lets for convenience sake say that everything else that gets raised comprises an additional 2.5% of the weight of the car, so that the amount of weight being raised is 12.5% or 1/8. So being that 1/8 of the weight is being raised 1mm, it would raise the CG 1/8th of 1mm.
If you are that worried about the CG changing by 1/8th of 1mm, then adjust your roll center by 1/8th of 1mm. I'm sure you are a good enough driver to feel the change of putting a .125mm shim under your inner ball stud.
03-12-2013, 10:55 PM
I accidentally called the black sanyo cells 1300 instead of 1700 lmao, fixed it
Dude if you couldn't feel it, then why with the mod?
Raising rear roll centre will change roll axis, that's why
I'm done now man
Dude if you couldn't feel it, then why with the mod?
Raising rear roll centre will change roll axis, that's why
I'm done now man