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Old 10-05-2011, 07:40 PM
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Chassis came out, and drives real good too.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by idrummerboy13
longer shaft means more up travel and more droop which means more steering, i might be wrong, somebody will correct lol
It can't give more up travel unless either the shock body is shorter or the shock tower is taller, and on the same vehicle it would actually limit the up travel. Otherwise a longer shock shaft will only give more down travel or droop.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by D-Rek07
Is that to know which color they are? It may be obvious but you didn't mention the brown springs.
i would dab what ever color they are on the bottom of the spring.
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:08 AM
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Def wanna glue the servo saver. for a couple reason 1 your servo isprob to fast or has to much power for it to begin with even with the hd spring. 2 when running the car alot od slop develops and the play actually gives enough give for servo saftey.. 3.. a BIG one just the direct feel of the input to the rack.. any sort of stress it making it move and your not getting the right imput! also akes it very inconsistant in corners...
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1 follow the book like you would do bye installing it regularly.. then take the assembley apart again.. and using a hig quality glue run a small beed along the servo savor "v"parts.. then put the shims and sping like normal but donot tighten the spring all the way down just set it normal... doing so will make it bind.. thats pretty much it..




Originally Posted by jkirkwood
Thanks for the feedback. I'll try the stock brace next time I'm at the track but I've been running on what I could call high traction (CRCRC & RC Factory). There is just something wrong with the car, I can make big swings at the setup and it just doesn't change much. Example went from zero washers to 3 under rear link Saturday just to try to feel a major change. It's twitchy and loose; the front end will never release coming on power. I'm going through the car this week, I'm hoping I find something cracked. I read on Opple with someone having a similar symptom and people recommended gluing the servo saver. Any thoughts on this? I have been running the car with the heavy servo saver.

The bad thing is I'm 2.5 hours drive from a track. Makes it hard to find the cause of stuff like this.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:25 AM
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Thanks everyone that provided feedback regarding the servo saver. It will be glued before I make it to the track next time.
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Originally Posted by SpraydbySprague
Just learned something new today. The B4.1 has a longer shock shaft than the B4 (.80 to a .71 ). What's the purpose of the longer shaft, and are there applications where the shorter shaft is still effective? I've searched the thread and found limited info.
With the B4, it was found that winding the shock out 2 turns was best for performance (when the shock is mounted in the outer hole on the arm). For the B44/B4.1, they released a longer shock shaft (1 washer on the new shaft = same droop as no washer / wound out 2 turns with B4 shaft).

There is no real performance difference, but the front rod end is stronger (when they were wound out, the rod end would sometimes pull off the rod in a hard crash).

Only real time when you would consider the shorter shaft is when using the inner hole on the front arm as you dont need to use so many washers (typically 4 with the longer shaft) - but I just use the extra washers.

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Old 10-06-2011, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kaycerc
It can't give more up travel unless either the shock body is shorter or the shock tower is taller, and on the same vehicle it would actually limit the up travel. Otherwise a longer shock shaft will only give more down travel or droop.
If the shaft is longer and the piston goes up into the body and cap another mm or two, then isnt' that more up travel?
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jkirkwood
Thanks everyone that provided feedback regarding the servo saver. It will be glued before I make it to the track next time.
Pack an extra one for when it snaps when you hit the tube. maybe pre-glued to save time in replacing it.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:40 AM
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Ok guys I got a quick question. I apologize, in advance, if it has been asked already. On Cavalieri's setup from the Worlds, he has marked that the rear #2 piston is drilled with a #55. Does he mean that he drilled one or two additional #55 holes?
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Originally Posted by mjk1210
If the shaft is longer and the piston goes up into the body and cap another mm or two, then isnt' that more up travel?
A whole "millimeter" of extra uptravel, so the piston can foul against the top of the shock body?
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtRacer68
Ok guys I got a quick question. I apologize, in advance, if it has been asked already. On Cavalieri's setup from the Worlds, he has marked that the rear #2 piston is drilled with a #55. Does he mean that he drilled one or two additional #55 holes?
IIRC, it means you drill the existing holes out with the #55, no additional holes are drilled.
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Originally Posted by DirtRacer68
Ok guys I got a quick question. I apologize, in advance, if it has been asked already. On Cavalieri's setup from the Worlds, he has marked that the rear #2 piston is drilled with a #55. Does he mean that he drilled one or two additional #55 holes?
He actually took a blank piston (ASC6463) and drilled them with a #55 bit.
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Anyone have an indoor carpet setup for a B4.1?


Thanks.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtRacer68
Ok guys I got a quick question. I apologize, in advance, if it has been asked already. On Cavalieri's setup from the Worlds, he has marked that the rear #2 piston is drilled with a #55. Does he mean that he drilled one or two additional #55 holes?
Do this to help the shock make more pack , hand drilled hole is just a bit smaller than the production piston ...

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Old 10-06-2011, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by racer1812
IIRC, it means you drill the existing holes out with the #55, no additional holes are drilled.
Originally Posted by Matt Trimmings
He actually took a blank piston (ASC6463) and drilled them with a #55 bit.
I wondered bc the existing holes are bigger than the #55 bit. Can you purchase blank pistons from A Main Hobbies or do you have to go through Associated?
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