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Old 01-01-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thorns
Thanks, will have a look for that as well.
With your setup, what sort of runtimes are you getting? Is it ever going to be possible to see 20minutes? Where I am there is no official 1/8th 'e' buggy class, they are just run with nitro buggies wich have 20 minute mains.
Thorns, I've seen others make 20-minutes with a Xcelorin sensorless 2100kv on a 4s 5000mah Losi battery.

However, the only way I personally have been able to ensure I'll finish a 20-minute main (I also typically run with nitros) without a battery swap is with a "high-voltage low-Kv" setup in my buggy. e.g. Tekin RX8 - T8 1400kv - 6s (3s+3s) 4200mAh 40c LiPo (some people get 20 minutes w only 3300mah, I got 19 minutes )

The High-Voltage Low-Kv setups run cooler and longer while producing the same amount of power. This type of setup should also carry the equivalent (or less) weight due to the lower mah (capacity) batteries required w 6s.
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Thorns, I've seen others make 20-minutes with a Xcelorin sensorless 2100kv on a 4s 5000mah Losi battery.

However, the only way I personally have been able to ensure I'll finish a 20-minute main (I also typically run with nitros) without a battery swap is with a "high-voltage low-Kv" setup in my buggy. e.g. Tekin RX8 - T8 1400kv - 6s (3s+3s) 4200mAh 40c LiPo (some people get 20 minutes w only 3300mah, I got 19 minutes )

The High-Voltage Low-Kv setups run cooler and longer while producing the same amount of power. This type of setup should also carry the equivalent (or less) weight due to the lower mah (capacity) batteries required w 6s.
Thanks alot for that, will have a look into running a setup like that as well, sounds like it could be teh ticket.

edit: Also, is there any benfit running two 3s packs instead of one big boy 6s pack?

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Originally Posted by thorns
Thanks, will have a look for that as well.
With your setup, what sort of runtimes are you getting? Is it ever going to be possible to see 20minutes? Where I am there is no official 1/8th 'e' buggy class, they are just run with nitro buggies wich have 20 minute mains.
I just got my Ve8 a few weeks ago and have yet to do any racing with it so I can't tell you how long the packs last. But the consensus seems to be that if you run 20 minute mains you want 6s.
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wow 20 minutes mains that will really drain down the lipos. Out here our races are like 5 to 7 minutes long. You will probably need a 6s just to all the run time etc.
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Originally Posted by thorns
Also, is there any benfit running two 3s packs instead of one big boy 6s pack?
Unless you are using a saddle pack configuration then no. With two 3s packs you have more wires to deal with. There could be other factors though. For example it might be hard to find a 6s pack of the right capacity that fits in the Ve8 battery compartment.
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Originally Posted by thorns
Thanks alot for that, will have a look into running a setup like that as well, sounds like it could be teh ticket.

edit: Also, is there any benfit running two 3s packs instead of one big boy 6s pack?
You're welcome!

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Unless you are using a saddle pack configuration then no. With two 3s packs you have more wires to deal with. There could be other factors though. For example it might be hard to find a 6s pack of the right capacity that fits in the Ve8 battery compartment.
+1 That is correct

The advantage is substantial if you have a saddlepack configuration as you are able to maintain a lower Center of Gravity by lowering the elevation of all that battery mass/weight by 50%. I can run a 6s system (3s+3s) and have a lower CG and better balance than a buggy with a single 4s battery that is sized for equivalent runtimes. (and obviously a much lower CG and way better balance than a single 6s battery)


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wow 20 minutes mains that will really drain down the lipos. Out here our races are like 5 to 7 minutes long. You will probably need a 6s just to all the run time etc.
LOL... what do you mean "out here our races are like 5 to 7 minutes long."
I live in So Cal too. I race 15 to 20 minute mains on 1:8 scale outdoor tracks every weekend unless its raining.. the 5 to 7 minute mains are only at the indoor tracks which are actually 1:10 scale tracks that put up with our 1:8 scale buggies, and a pretty good source told me that West Coast would like to phase out all 1:8 scale racing.
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Originally Posted by OWTKAST cpt
1700 does GREAT on 5s... BUT.. With the new RX8 software you can run the 1700 on 4s with TP2 I believe and have great bottom end thats easier to put to the ground, Good speed, better run times then 1900 AND cooler temps.

So dont be scared of the 1700 on 4s, just ask for settings on the RX8 thread. ACTUALLY I think randy has his 1700 4s setup on tekins site.

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http://teamtekin.com/hotwire/ESCsetu...up-sheets.html
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RX8 is a great ESC

The designer of the Ve8, Josh Alton, runs just about everything you can imagine in his Ve8 , but it seems most of the time I catch him with 1700kv on 4s in it and he's extremely fast with it. Just gear it up accordingly.. 22/50.. 23/50
Awesome, I appreciate it the info! I'm new to the 1/8 high voltage setups and it does get confusing. I mainly race 1/5 offroad and the only electronics I have to deal with is my receiver, killswitch and tach Thanks again guys, I'm sure I'll be back with plenty of questions.

Oh, and your chassis is next on my list. I actually ruined the stock chassis during the build when I was installing the steering posts I stripped out the plastic "square" that holds the posts in place. I had to make a quick order from A Main for a new chassis lol. Afterwards I saw your chassis thread and wanted to kick myself for wa
sting $50 on another composite chassis.

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I hope West Coast doesnt fade out 1/8th scale buggy. I was going to run their once I get my car together.
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Originally Posted by blade329
You should never have to add weight to this buggy. It's a pretty well balanced buggy. Check and make sure you have nothing binding in the suspension.
I removed the shocks and arms and still the side where the lipos is still heavier... should i add weight on the servo/esc side?
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Originally Posted by kp-61
I removed the shocks and arms and still the side where the lipos is still heavier... should i add weight on the servo/esc side?
Like other members said you shouldn't have to. The balance in the car is fine. So no need. You can try it and let us know if you notice a change in handling or not.
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Well I went ahead and picked up the Rx8/1700kV! Getting closer to getting this buggy out on the track. I have a few more questions though!

What length sensor wire do I need? He's sending a 200mm wire but I'm not sure if that'll work. I saw a link in this thread for one that's 270mm so I may just order that one.

PINIONS! I'm going to pick up a few sizes. Anyone have any they want to get rid of? Based on HH's post, I'll probably start out with 21, 22 and 23. Is there anything special I need to do for those pinions to fit? The reason I ask is I saw something mentioned about the larger pinions not fitting correctly (or I thought I did, I could be mistaken LOL).

That's all for now haha. Thanks for the help everyone.
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harley can you send me a email on when i should expect my chassis? wow it like pulling teeth from a goat
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Originally Posted by nastystroker
harley can you send me a email on when i should expect my chassis? wow it like pulling teeth from a goat
Are the chassis's on backorders or something.
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no but when you send money a reply would be nice
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Originally Posted by HH
You're welcome!

...and a pretty good source told me that West Coast would like to phase out all 1:8 scale racing.
Harley, that would really not surprise me at all. It's too much of a liability considering how much damage they can do. I got nailed in the ankle with one on Tuesday. Didn't hurt too bad, but it would have been bad if it had struck an 8 year old kid.
Besides, running 1/8th scale there has become an exercise in futility. Good luck getting any kind of practice time there unless the track is empty, a rare occurrence. That's why I rarely run 1/8th scale there at all.
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