Upgrading an Elect. Rustler
05-09-2009, 12:28 AM
#1
Upgrading an Elect. Rustler
Hey guys, I've had this thing sitting in my garage for about 5 years. Everything is stock, except for the broken novak explorer...I ran it for about 3 hours total prior.
I basically want to upgrade this, and just use it for fun. I would like you guys to suggest parts, with links please, to products I should buy.
I'd prefer to build its sturdiness first, if that's good? I want to jump off curbs and small ramps without worrying about it. Ahh I'm not sure what else to say. Please make suggestions
Thanks in advance guys, first post!! 
Edit: I do not want to spend a fortune on this. Merely enough to get myself started, and then I'll see what happens from there
Also, what is brushless, and what are the benefits of it? I am assuming that standard esc's do not work with it?
I basically want to upgrade this, and just use it for fun. I would like you guys to suggest parts, with links please, to products I should buy.
I'd prefer to build its sturdiness first, if that's good? I want to jump off curbs and small ramps without worrying about it. Ahh I'm not sure what else to say. Please make suggestions
Thanks in advance guys, first post!! Edit: I do not want to spend a fortune on this. Merely enough to get myself started, and then I'll see what happens from there
Also, what is brushless, and what are the benefits of it? I am assuming that standard esc's do not work with it?
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05-09-2009, 04:34 AM
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If you want to jump and such, stock is fine, it doesn't need any upgrades. It's the second most durable RC, behind the slash
Brushless is a different motor design. Basically, inside most motors there are magnets and coils. In a brushed motor the coils are spinning on the inside, and the magnets fixed to the can. This means that you need a commutator to transfer the power to the coils. This means they get hot quickly, and aren't very efficient.
In a Brushless motor, the coils are on the outside, and the timing done by the ESC (so you need a brushless specific ESC), so no power is wasted through the commutator. Brushless motors are faster and more powerful, while using the same amount of power (or less!).
Brushless is a different motor design. Basically, inside most motors there are magnets and coils. In a brushed motor the coils are spinning on the inside, and the magnets fixed to the can. This means that you need a commutator to transfer the power to the coils. This means they get hot quickly, and aren't very efficient.
In a Brushless motor, the coils are on the outside, and the timing done by the ESC (so you need a brushless specific ESC), so no power is wasted through the commutator. Brushless motors are faster and more powerful, while using the same amount of power (or less!).
05-09-2009, 04:36 AM
#3
brushless= less friction in the motor because of better wires and a=magnets
this is a good brushless http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSDB8&P=ML
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRNP7&P=M that should be pretty good because then you can upgrade to aluminum hop ups
this is a good brushless http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSDB8&P=ML
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRNP7&P=M that should be pretty good because then you can upgrade to aluminum hop ups
05-09-2009, 07:23 AM
#4
brushless= less friction in the motor because of better wires and a=magnets
this is a good brushless http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSDB8&P=ML
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRNP7&P=M that should be pretty good because then you can upgrade to aluminum hop ups
this is a good brushless http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSDB8&P=ML
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRNP7&P=M that should be pretty good because then you can upgrade to aluminum hop ups
05-09-2009, 12:53 PM
#7
Lol, everyone's got you buying a brushless system and you're just trying to figure out if you like the hobby! If your ESC is fried, you can get new one for $30 or $40 on tower hobbies that will handle a reasonable brushed motor. I have a duratrax ESC I got used on ebay for $10 that works great. Also, to make your Rustler tougher, look at RPM suspension parts also found at tower. They're much stronger than the original parts. Keep it simple and don't spend money where it's not needed, otherwise you'll get burned out.
05-09-2009, 01:28 PM
#8
Lol, everyone's got you buying a brushless system and you're just trying to figure out if you like the hobby! If your ESC is fried, you can get new one for $30 or $40 on tower hobbies that will handle a reasonable brushed motor. I have a duratrax ESC I got used on ebay for $10 that works great. Also, to make your Rustler tougher, look at RPM suspension parts also found at tower. They're much stronger than the original parts. Keep it simple and don't spend money where it's not needed, otherwise you'll get burned out.
With school and work though, it will be tough to justify spending all of that money on something I won't be able to use often.
05-09-2009, 03:07 PM
#10
basic use? define please? the xl5 is too basic and the titan wares out quickly on some of them. not very fast, it would be more fun getting like a novak gtx/gts off ebay for around 50$ and maybe like a 10t brushed motor to rip your tires off your rims or something.
05-09-2009, 03:11 PM
#11
your best bet would be to pick up a used esc from the FS/FT forum on here.
look for a motor that is under 19t, but over 10t.
look for a motor that is under 19t, but over 10t.
05-09-2009, 03:20 PM
#12
Yeah Racing Ultimate Brainpower ESC 35A & 9T Sensorless Brushless Motor Set + Free Tornado Cooling Fan. For $90, is that a good deal?
05-09-2009, 03:37 PM
#13
I would get the 9t for your rustler
http://search.ebay.com/search/search...fsoo%3D1&fgtp=