39LikesTeam Yokomo MO 2.0
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12-14-2023, 06:12 PM
#61
Got in run with 5K front and 100K rear 4 gear, yeah it definitel rotates faster thats for sure. I liked the feel, still figuring out some other changes here as well as tires. our carpet actually responds better to tires like a nessi and even some mini darts. fuzzbites right now pack up with well, fuzz, and lock the car too much in.
12-27-2023, 07:39 PM
#62
So got a report on how the changes went.
Big thing at our track is the carpet right now needs to break in more as it fuzzes up tires like fuzzbites hard. We end up using rears like Nessi's. Grip great and no fuzz. was ableot get some stable runs in and the car was really good. Got a few more changes to do but the diff changes were great. Right now combo on tires that felt good was Schumacher Fusion 2 fronts with sidewalls glued and Jconcepts Nessis. I could see something like a mini dart or a Cactus could work.
Big thing at our track is the carpet right now needs to break in more as it fuzzes up tires like fuzzbites hard. We end up using rears like Nessi's. Grip great and no fuzz. was ableot get some stable runs in and the car was really good. Got a few more changes to do but the diff changes were great. Right now combo on tires that felt good was Schumacher Fusion 2 fronts with sidewalls glued and Jconcepts Nessis. I could see something like a mini dart or a Cactus could work.
01-03-2024, 10:24 AM
#64
So decided to post up where I am at so far with my setup on my MO 2.0 for our local track at FMRC Raceways. We race on FOSS brand EcoFi Status carpet that the latest revision seems to take awhile more to breakin and not fuzz up. its getting better, but for our 70x36ft area track we can almost fill a vaccuum bag each time we hit the carpet with it. Its getting better, but the fuzz is enough that running jconcepts fuzzbites front and rear and pinswag fronts they have a tendency to get filled with fuzz. You then run into weird grip issues.
We have pretty much gone to Jconcepts Nessi tires for rear as the goto as they don't pack up with fuzz but do wear a bit faster probably as the pins are spaced pretty well. For fronts, it seems swaggers ar the most consistent relative to the fuzz. I do run at times pinswag 2wd wide fronts and they work, bit more steering but do eventually fuzz up on 2wd but not as hard. on 4wd definitely not worth trying, on there, using Schumacher Fusion 2 fronts.
Schumacher tires however appear to be a great option, cactus and fusion style don't seem to pack up nearly as much if at all like th eother jconcepts offerings and guys even use Mini darts (I have) and even up to Mezzos on the surface.
Right now biggest thing is I want to try full cactus rears and fusion 2 fronts together, see how it goes. Also going to try the harder foams as well as another fast driver is using closed cell foams in his shcumacher tires from what i recall.
So far, on these conditions this what I got for setup:
I'll have a few changes I am thinking to this setup for a bit more stability but want to see how a tire change works out relative to that.
Going to an EOS offroad track this weekend, so will probably have a few changes to the setup specific for that will post up, also got some willspeed springs on the way.
01-08-2024, 03:42 PM
#65
*** RACE REPORT ***
RC Underground in Warren MN 2023-2024 Winter Series Round 3
Very technical layout with a high speed straight into a wall ride that made driving challenging. Decided to go with a heavy diff setup and tune from there for all vehicles configured as such:
MO 2.0 4wd Buggy
- Tekin RS Pro BE ESC in Blinky Mode
- Tekin RS T180 Servo
- Tekin 4200mah Shorty Lipo
- Tekin Gen4 13.5 Motor
- Protek RC titanium hardware
Going with heavy diff setups here on the black EOS Offroad Carpet, 100K in the rear of each vehicle, and 5k up front for the 4wd buggy. The buggies had great rotation, with the only changes on that front I felt were needed during the race was the MO 2.0 4wd buggy going from 6 degree to 8 degree carriers to get a more consistent steering profile for how I drive.
On the 4wd buggy, it took me a few laps to get the new feel of the steering response versus the 6dig carriers I was using before. Once I settled down I started to crank out very consistent laps which on the challenging track and the power these cars can put down was causing issues for everyone at different points of the track. After almost passing the leader earlier before getting tangled up and having to work my way up again about midway through the race, in the end I was able to pull out the win in the last few laps.
RC Underground in Warren MN 2023-2024 Winter Series Round 3
Very technical layout with a high speed straight into a wall ride that made driving challenging. Decided to go with a heavy diff setup and tune from there for all vehicles configured as such:
MO 2.0 4wd Buggy
- Tekin RS Pro BE ESC in Blinky Mode
- Tekin RS T180 Servo
- Tekin 4200mah Shorty Lipo
- Tekin Gen4 13.5 Motor
- Protek RC titanium hardware
Going with heavy diff setups here on the black EOS Offroad Carpet, 100K in the rear of each vehicle, and 5k up front for the 4wd buggy. The buggies had great rotation, with the only changes on that front I felt were needed during the race was the MO 2.0 4wd buggy going from 6 degree to 8 degree carriers to get a more consistent steering profile for how I drive.
On the 4wd buggy, it took me a few laps to get the new feel of the steering response versus the 6dig carriers I was using before. Once I settled down I started to crank out very consistent laps which on the challenging track and the power these cars can put down was causing issues for everyone at different points of the track. After almost passing the leader earlier before getting tangled up and having to work my way up again about midway through the race, in the end I was able to pull out the win in the last few laps.
02-06-2024, 01:10 PM
#66
*** Race Report ***
*** RC Underground in Warren MN 2023-2024 Winter Series Round 4 ***
For this race the layout was a combination of a lot of straights and 180s with extremely challenging big air high speed jumps. One of the more challenging jumps ironically was the smallest due to a section that at times could kick your car funny in the air. Next after that was a big air triple with almost a cushioned flat landing that went pretty quickly into a 180 with a half-a-lane small single in the turn, easy to either overshoot this or roll in the half-a-lane single.
Equipment for this race as follows:
Yokomo MO 2.0 4wd Buggy
- Tekin RS Pro BE ESC in Blinky Mode
- Tekin RS T180 Servo
- Tekin 4200mah Shorty Lipo
- Tekin Gen4 SpecR2 13.5 Motor
- Protek RC titanium hardware
4wd Buggy
The MO 2.0 I felt during practice needed the benefit of more droop and a stiffer front spring so made those changes. The car still felt a bit more unsettled on some more bumpy sections so decided to break out some Fusion 2 front tires which instantly calmed the car down over bumpy sections. I ended up qualifing 4th for the main.
In the main the car was on rails, able to crank out very fast laps and was a battle for for the top 3 spots, with the car able to put down some great speed enough so that rather than risking taking out the driver in front me for a possible risky pass decided to chase and both of us draw down on the leader. Unfortunately as we were gaining towards the end of the race, a mental lapse cause a bobble which eventually ended in getting hit by oncoming traffic and breakig my rear arm ending my race. Ended up finishing 6th, with the 2nd fastest lap time of the group and high consistency till that error. Next Time!
*** RC Underground in Warren MN 2023-2024 Winter Series Round 4 ***
For this race the layout was a combination of a lot of straights and 180s with extremely challenging big air high speed jumps. One of the more challenging jumps ironically was the smallest due to a section that at times could kick your car funny in the air. Next after that was a big air triple with almost a cushioned flat landing that went pretty quickly into a 180 with a half-a-lane small single in the turn, easy to either overshoot this or roll in the half-a-lane single.
Equipment for this race as follows:
Yokomo MO 2.0 4wd Buggy
- Tekin RS Pro BE ESC in Blinky Mode
- Tekin RS T180 Servo
- Tekin 4200mah Shorty Lipo
- Tekin Gen4 SpecR2 13.5 Motor
- Protek RC titanium hardware
4wd Buggy
The MO 2.0 I felt during practice needed the benefit of more droop and a stiffer front spring so made those changes. The car still felt a bit more unsettled on some more bumpy sections so decided to break out some Fusion 2 front tires which instantly calmed the car down over bumpy sections. I ended up qualifing 4th for the main.
In the main the car was on rails, able to crank out very fast laps and was a battle for for the top 3 spots, with the car able to put down some great speed enough so that rather than risking taking out the driver in front me for a possible risky pass decided to chase and both of us draw down on the leader. Unfortunately as we were gaining towards the end of the race, a mental lapse cause a bobble which eventually ended in getting hit by oncoming traffic and breakig my rear arm ending my race. Ended up finishing 6th, with the 2nd fastest lap time of the group and high consistency till that error. Next Time!
02-09-2024, 11:46 AM
#67
Got in some testing and some other drivers are doing this figured report back ...
The Jconcepts pin swags wide 2wd fronts being used in 4wd buggy, they are a nice option if you want something that doens't have as much of a chunky sidewall and you do get the newer style foams too. Gluing is a slight challenge as the tire can pull when trying to do the first sidewall, causing it not to seat properly. I'd suggest you line up the bead you want to glue, and then kind of have the other side over the other bead towards the center of the wheel, this causes it not to pull so hard on the sidewall at that point. Once that side is glued, you can do the other and use tire bands to hold things properly.
The tires in geneal feel great and more stable. Only place I'd say is watch out on a bumpy surface may want to go back to the regular sized sidewalls if you are not wanting to change your setup. I also glued the actual sidewall like my 4wd pin swags however I have heard of some not having to do that.
The Jconcepts pin swags wide 2wd fronts being used in 4wd buggy, they are a nice option if you want something that doens't have as much of a chunky sidewall and you do get the newer style foams too. Gluing is a slight challenge as the tire can pull when trying to do the first sidewall, causing it not to seat properly. I'd suggest you line up the bead you want to glue, and then kind of have the other side over the other bead towards the center of the wheel, this causes it not to pull so hard on the sidewall at that point. Once that side is glued, you can do the other and use tire bands to hold things properly.
The tires in geneal feel great and more stable. Only place I'd say is watch out on a bumpy surface may want to go back to the regular sized sidewalls if you are not wanting to change your setup. I also glued the actual sidewall like my 4wd pin swags however I have heard of some not having to do that.
I do the same, but with the 2wd wide fuzzbite, this tread pattern works better on the carpets that I run on. I'll share what I've done too. When using the 2wd wide versions of these tyres, there is quite a mismatch in front to rear rollout due to the diameter being much smaller. This can create some awkward handling and the car not wanting to flow though the longer corners nicely. But thanks to Yokomo we have a solution
I have changed the internal gearing of the front gearbox only to 40/17. This combination gives about the same front rollout as Schumacher Cactus Fusion 1's with 40/16, but with the benefits of the lower profile tyre. The car handles amazingly well, it is by far the best 4wd I've had on carpet.
02-12-2024, 05:37 AM
#68
Quoted from another thread
I do the same, but with the 2wd wide fuzzbite, this tread pattern works better on the carpets that I run on. I'll share what I've done too. When using the 2wd wide versions of these tyres, there is quite a mismatch in front to rear rollout due to the diameter being much smaller. This can create some awkward handling and the car not wanting to flow though the longer corners nicely. But thanks to Yokomo we have a solution
I have changed the internal gearing of the front gearbox only to 40/17. This combination gives about the same front rollout as Schumacher Cactus Fusion 1's with 40/16, but with the benefits of the lower profile tyre. The car handles amazingly well, it is by far the best 4wd I've had on carpet.
I do the same, but with the 2wd wide fuzzbite, this tread pattern works better on the carpets that I run on. I'll share what I've done too. When using the 2wd wide versions of these tyres, there is quite a mismatch in front to rear rollout due to the diameter being much smaller. This can create some awkward handling and the car not wanting to flow though the longer corners nicely. But thanks to Yokomo we have a solution
I have changed the internal gearing of the front gearbox only to 40/17. This combination gives about the same front rollout as Schumacher Cactus Fusion 1's with 40/16, but with the benefits of the lower profile tyre. The car handles amazingly well, it is by far the best 4wd I've had on carpet.
Got a part # breakdown of what you used to do this? can add it up to the wiki. Also post your setup when you get a chance be cool to see!
02-12-2024, 10:33 AM
#69
The parts for the front gearbox are S4-503D17 and S4-503R17. You have to change both the ring and pinion, the ring gear has the same number of teeth but is different to keep the gear mesh correct.
The only downside is you can't just bolt normal 4wd front tyres back on or you'll have a big overdrive in the front, except for the JC 4wd front Pinswag - this is a lower profile than the other 4wd fronts and the front to rear rollout almost match each other with the 40/17 front gearbox and that tyre.
Thinking of building another front gearbox to have in the pit bag in case I need to change back to a normal 4wd front.
The only downside is you can't just bolt normal 4wd front tyres back on or you'll have a big overdrive in the front, except for the JC 4wd front Pinswag - this is a lower profile than the other 4wd fronts and the front to rear rollout almost match each other with the 40/17 front gearbox and that tyre.
Thinking of building another front gearbox to have in the pit bag in case I need to change back to a normal 4wd front.
03-26-2024, 09:03 PM
#71
Tech Master
iTrader: (68)
Just finished building this kit. Great fit and finish on all the parts. Didn't ream out any pivots at all. Suspension works very smoothly and no sticky pivots. It's a heavy car with my build. 13.5 car, full size esc and battery with Ti links, screws, and ballstudd. 1700 grams. Don't like the inner ballstud pivots at all. Thry work but are annoying. Gonna race it on clay with the COL 1st and then change to center diff. Love the shock bushings and machined pistons. Can't wait to test it out on the ttrack.
03-29-2024, 08:42 AM
#72
Just finished building this kit. Great fit and finish on all the parts. Didn't ream out any pivots at all. Suspension works very smoothly and no sticky pivots. It's a heavy car with my build. 13.5 car, full size esc and battery with Ti links, screws, and ballstudd. 1700 grams. Don't like the inner ballstud pivots at all. Thry work but are annoying. Gonna race it on clay with the COL 1st and then change to center diff. Love the shock bushings and machined pistons. Can't wait to test it out on the ttrack.
Agree on the ballstud inserts that go into the tower. They really should make a design that is just 1 direction like the a-arm inserts on teh rear. so if I want position "1", I put it this way, position "2", use the other hole but it inserts into the opening and cannot rotate on you when assembling. That or maybe Yok MODZ or foote factory rc could make an aftermarket tower that just has set holes.
03-29-2024, 03:31 PM
#73
Agree on the ballstud inserts that go into the tower. They really should make a design that is just 1 direction like the a-arm inserts on teh rear. so if I want position "1", I put it this way, position "2", use the other hole but it inserts into the opening and cannot rotate on you when assembling. That or maybe Yok MODZ or foote factory rc could make an aftermarket tower that just has set holes.
03-30-2024, 08:39 PM
#74
Tech Master
iTrader: (68)
Got some good practice today at my local track. It's pretty good so far. Lots of potential. Very confident with it after 3 or so packs. The new HW 13.5 is very strong as well. Im still runnjng thr COL on clay track amd its definitely a different feel with good steering under hard braking. For a 13.5 buggy it weighs 1730grams. That's a lot, I mean a lot, lol. im working on a center diff with a pucks center driveline. Small esc and thin pack would definitely lose some weight, but im not sure if I go that route. Overall, very positive results so far.
03-31-2024, 06:21 PM
#75
Got some good practice today at my local track. It's pretty good so far. Lots of potential. Very confident with it after 3 or so packs. The new HW 13.5 is very strong as well. Im still runnjng thr COL on clay track amd its definitely a different feel with good steering under hard braking. For a 13.5 buggy it weighs 1730grams. That's a lot, I mean a lot, lol. im working on a center diff with a pucks center driveline. Small esc and thin pack would definitely lose some weight, but im not sure if I go that route. Overall, very positive results so far.