Rod M

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Geting sick of my current car and looking at a XRAY for a upgrade,

one thing is, I really dislike Carbon fibre/fibre glass chassis,

and I don't see myself using the Pivot ball suspension as I only run at Castle Hill and occasionally at Eastern Creek,

apart from the CF bits and Pivot ball suspension what else is the difference between the XRAY T1 evo 2 and XRAY T1 Raycer?

fastolfart

The evo2 comes with both suspension sets, and i havnt seen anyone build it in pivot ball form yet, except for when darrin Campbell did a comparison between the 2 years ago when it was released.
The T1r has only C hub.
The pivot ball is very good at all tracks and can be more finely tuned than the c hub.
The plastic c hub that comes with the evo2 is lighter than the alloy c hub and the pivot ball set up.

TheRaven

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well have you try looking at other cars like the misson and yokomo sd like that

Rod M

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thanks, I have not seen anyone use the Pivot ball setup either, apart from the suspension and All the CF bits are there any other differences between the two, does the Evo 2 come with any other features that the Raycer doesn't?

Rod M

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yea I have, but that would mean I would have to resolder my packs as they are already in saddle pack config.

plus I don't like the idea of the pack running down one side chassis,

dontfeelcold

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the t1r has a plastic chassis and shock towers, cheap to replace if they break.

TheRaven

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well what theses misson like
yeah i like the xray as well
but looking at a yokomo sd or misson

Rod M

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True, but apart from this and the Pivot ball suspension what else is the difference between the two?

Matt04

the Evo 2 is more tune-able, but for someone like me whos not experianced with seting up a car i would need some help with the Evo 2.

the T1R or Evo 2 is a great car

fastolfart

The T1R comes with C hub suspension, i forgot to mention that earlier. plastic chassis kit

The T1 came with pivot ball suspension only with carbon fibre chassis kit and shock towers

The T1 evo2 comes with plastic C hubs as well as pivot ball suspension, similar spec as the T1 chassis

Hope that helps

vaiogeek

I don't know if it matters much, but the T1R also doesn't have the nice finish on the front and rear bulkheads. The Aluminium is raw but shiny - not the goldish anodised like the T1 or Evo2.

I run a T1R and find the drivetrain to be very compareable to the T1/Evo2. I definately have the same speed as a T1/Evo2 down the straight.

As the others have said, the T1R uses the composit C-Hub suspension.

The only problem I've had so far is that the front of the composite chassis is not reinforced between the front bulkhead and bumper. I struck an exposed pipe on the track the other day and snapped the front of the chassis clean off. But what is nice is that Chassis for the T1R are $25 US from HK. So I got a replacement and a spare for less than a Carbon one! (The hit was so hard, that I think it would have done in a carbon chassis too - at least fractured it, which is a common problem with all carbon chassis).

Hope that helps - I'm a very happy T1R owner

war11x

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Rob M
i say TIR great car and pretty good on pricing for parts
EVO 2 great car double your price for parts
both cars drive pretty similiar i know of guys who own evos and change the bottom deck to the composite tr1 ones this allows for a little softer ride
on saying that you should look at how much money you want to spend / keep spending then go from thier
i run 2 x T1Rs and am very happy
my 2 cents worth

Kennedy

Pete, I heard you tried an T1R and could get it to turn it @ all?

EVO2 rear shock tower has 3 times more mouting positions

PivotBall will be handy for carpet in Canberra this year @ ACT titles

fastolfart

I think its more of a personal thing, i just couldnt come to grips with the T1r, as the new owner is going quite fast and happy with it. I had the same driver problems with a Losi XXX's.

I think ive been spoiling my self with the CF chassis for too many years.
e.g. Corally C4, replaced with a T1, updated to a T1 evo and T1r at the same time, the T1r is now happy with its new own and im back to 1 car.
The T1R is a good car and does run the same drive train as all the T1 range.

Rod M

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Thanks for the info guys,

I havent made up my mind yet about what to get, 90% chance it will be one of those two,

it is a tough decision because $$ is not a issue, but at the same time I want the best car (but no CF).