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Old 04-15-2006 | 07:41 AM
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looking for a few answers on brushless systems from the resident oracles here, any help greatly appreciated.

I'm looking to move into 1/10 offroad electric racing and was wondering why brushless motor's haven't really taken off at a competitive level yet?

The on paper specs suggest brushless's (such as velocity 4.5 or Nosram 3 or 4 star etc.) should be competitive against mod motor's, why do none of the top line guys use them for competition?

Anyone have any experience of a brushless compared to a brushed mod motor?

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Old 04-15-2006 | 03:37 PM
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Hey,i recently owned a novak 5.5t brushless system and all i can say is WOW i dont know why people havent taken them on yet,i guess they dont wanna break their routine.

I think they are way better because of the super low maintanence and low battery consuption,dont get the LRP or nosram ones as they have lower punch that the novak,i would recommend the novak 6.5t velocity brushless motor with the gtb speedy...a 5.5 or 4.4 would just be to crazy for offroad.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 04:13 PM
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If your interested in going for a brushless system I would highly reccommend you going for the hacker it is a little bit dearer as you will never have a problem with thermalling with this product. And by the way they are fast as well.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Safer SX
If your interested in going for a brushless system I would highly reccommend you going for the hacker it is a little bit dearer as you will never have a problem with thermalling with this product. And by the way they are fast as well.
I dont believe the Hacker is legal for racing because its sensor-less.
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Old 04-15-2006 | 05:58 PM
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I JUST brought the super sport system from novak, keen to get it on the track should be good fun.
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Old 04-16-2006 | 02:34 AM
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I've been running Novak's GTB / velocity BL system and love it. running a 5.5 in my TC at the mo.. looking to get a 4.5 and 6.5 as well (for offroad, and more TC, etc)

great systems, worth it!
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Old 04-16-2006 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by v0rtex
I dont believe the Hacker is legal for racing because its sensor-less.
Correct Hacker is illegal although not for sensor less. It doesn't quite meet the dimension requirements. It would not be a good choice for off road anyway as it has far too much horsepower.

I saw the LRP in action on Friday, it looked very good.
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Old 04-17-2006 | 06:53 AM
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thanks guys.

Can anyone tell me if the velocity or lrp/norams are legal for 1/10 offroad racing?
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Old 04-17-2006 | 07:16 AM
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There were a few people who used brushless for 4WD mod at the Nationals last weekend.
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Old 04-17-2006 | 08:18 AM
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Matt Griffen Qualified 3rd with a Nosram Combo last Friday. (4WD Mod)
Craig Laughton won the title with the LRP combo.
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Old 04-17-2006 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fuhrer
Matt Griffen Qualified 3rd with a Nosram Combo last Friday. (4WD Mod)
Craig Laughton won the title with the LRP combo.
Arent Novak and LRP systems the only AARCMCC 'legal' systems?... nosram?
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Old 04-17-2006 | 05:41 PM
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Nosram is a re-badged LRP system.
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Old 04-17-2006 | 05:51 PM
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Its been a long time since i've ran a brushed mod motor, been running the Novak 5.5 and 4.5 for quite some time. In very hot weather thermal shut down can become an issue, careful gearing is key, I guess it depends how hard you push the systems, overgearing is an easy mistake to make. Last few months i've been running the 4.5 Novak and all has been going fine, plenty of speed.

Zero attendance is one of the best benefits, normally a 5min run in mod results in 10-15mins work on the motor afterwards.

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Old 04-17-2006 | 06:08 PM
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Im very impressed with the size of the LRP Competition Sphere after seeing Besercoe's unit on the weekend. Should be a killer unit if it can handle a 4.5R Novak motor.
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Old 04-17-2006 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by danjoy25
Im very impressed with the size of the LRP Competition Sphere after seeing Besercoe's unit on the weekend. Should be a killer unit if it can handle a 4.5R Novak motor.
Size matters...

Novak GTB = 29.5mm x 37.8 mm
LRP = 33.1mm x 37.6mm
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