Team Magic E4 Thread
11-11-2008, 11:09 AM
#1471
what TM spring you used for the asphalt and carpet? whys a e4 sedan/rubber tire
thank olivier
thank olivier
11-12-2008, 10:10 AM
#1472
E4FS C1
Hello all,
I recently acquired a TM E4FS with the optional front aluminum oneway/spool and the pulleys do not line up. They are misaligned by about 2 or 3mm.
The front pulley is very close to the bulkhead but does not rub. Is this common or do I have a mismatch of parts?
I really would like to use the oneway but it's binding the front belt.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I recently acquired a TM E4FS with the optional front aluminum oneway/spool and the pulleys do not line up. They are misaligned by about 2 or 3mm.
The front pulley is very close to the bulkhead but does not rub. Is this common or do I have a mismatch of parts?
I really would like to use the oneway but it's binding the front belt.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
11-12-2008, 08:45 PM
#1473
I'm running Novak SS17.5s in both of mine for VTA.
What I did:
1. Take off the chassis stiffening brace.
2. Pull the sensor wire through the belt.
3. Install the motor. I had to massage it in due to the motor shaft, but it works.
4. Put the brace back on.
5. Tie wrap the sensor wires to the motor wires leaving enough loop to not rub the belts. It works nice, doesn't pinch any wires and the belts never touch the sensor wire.
This leaves me with about an 1/8" gap from the endbell to the chassis.
What I did:
1. Take off the chassis stiffening brace.
2. Pull the sensor wire through the belt.
3. Install the motor. I had to massage it in due to the motor shaft, but it works.
4. Put the brace back on.
5. Tie wrap the sensor wires to the motor wires leaving enough loop to not rub the belts. It works nice, doesn't pinch any wires and the belts never touch the sensor wire.
This leaves me with about an 1/8" gap from the endbell to the chassis.
11-13-2008, 04:31 AM
#1474
E4 and top speed
Dear all
I am new to the E4 and I can not get the required top speed out of this car. Tried all the different gearing but it remains the slowest car on the long straight by a lot.
I have also another car with the same motor (LRP 17.5) that is MUCH faster.
The E4 is much nicer car to drive but…
What is your experience? Any tips?
Regards
I am new to the E4 and I can not get the required top speed out of this car. Tried all the different gearing but it remains the slowest car on the long straight by a lot.
I have also another car with the same motor (LRP 17.5) that is MUCH faster.
The E4 is much nicer car to drive but…
What is your experience? Any tips?
Regards
11-13-2008, 06:44 AM
#1475
Exact same motor? Same ESC? How tight do you have the belt tension set? Stock belts or KFactory?
Different ESCs will make a difference (fixed timing versus dynamic timing, Novak/LRP)
Different motors even of same type will be different if one has a weak rotor.
The KFactory belts are much better and free up the car a lot.
Socko
Different ESCs will make a difference (fixed timing versus dynamic timing, Novak/LRP)
Different motors even of same type will be different if one has a weak rotor.
The KFactory belts are much better and free up the car a lot.
Socko
11-13-2008, 05:43 PM
#1476
E4 and top speed
Dear Socko
Yes, same motor and ESC.
So, I guess this is not normal then.
The belts are the normal ones and I run them fairly loose.
The difference in lap times is 1.5s (23s versus 21.5s).
I am at a total loss...
I will swap the motors and ESC and try again.
Thanks and regards
Yes, same motor and ESC.
So, I guess this is not normal then.
The belts are the normal ones and I run them fairly loose.
The difference in lap times is 1.5s (23s versus 21.5s).
I am at a total loss...
I will swap the motors and ESC and try again.
Thanks and regards
11-14-2008, 08:12 AM
#1477
Have you checked how free it rolls without the gears meshed?
You may have something binding like a bad bearing, a tire/wheel rubbing an arm or ball cup, tight belts, or even a diff dust cover rubbing on the chassis.
And what's up with this "required" speed, does your track have a minimum top speed ?
You may have something binding like a bad bearing, a tire/wheel rubbing an arm or ball cup, tight belts, or even a diff dust cover rubbing on the chassis.
And what's up with this "required" speed, does your track have a minimum top speed ?
11-14-2008, 12:38 PM
#1479
Have you checked how free it rolls without the gears meshed?
You may have something binding like a bad bearing, a tire/wheel rubbing an arm or ball cup, tight belts, or even a diff dust cover rubbing on the chassis.
And what's up with this "required" speed, does your track have a minimum top speed ?
You may have something binding like a bad bearing, a tire/wheel rubbing an arm or ball cup, tight belts, or even a diff dust cover rubbing on the chassis.
And what's up with this "required" speed, does your track have a minimum top speed ?
Maybe some binding somewhere. Take the motor out and if the car is clean. Push the car along, turn the wheels by hand too.....is there any binding or are they free.
Then, even if you feel the wheels spin free and there is no binding, take the centre (ie: the side belt) off and turn the front then the rear wheels in turn, seperately.
Do they feel the same? Any binding?
Now take the wheels off and check again. Any difference?
Binding on the car can be really noticeable when running the car and less noticeable when in your hands testing?!
Good luck. There must be something cause the transmission on this car is very free and easy.
British Menace
11-15-2008, 08:59 AM
#1480
Tech Initiate
Hey guys. I've just picked up a new E4RS and just have a few questions...
I'm having a hard time fitting my Orion Vortex 6.5 into the car. I know i have to remove the side brace etc. but when i get it in I'm not left with much movement meaning getting a good mesh and having a few different options with the gearing is going to be a problem.
On the subject of gearing, this is the first time i will be running a brushless/lipo setup. Where is a good place to start with the gearing?
Also, a few pages back there is a pic with a kfactory(?) center brace that goes over the top deck allowing a lipo. I've bought one thinking i was getting that but the one i have received goes under the top deck, so i cant fit a lipo with it. Where can i find the one pictured on the car a few pages back?
Anyone from the UK know a good website/store for parts?
I'm having a hard time fitting my Orion Vortex 6.5 into the car. I know i have to remove the side brace etc. but when i get it in I'm not left with much movement meaning getting a good mesh and having a few different options with the gearing is going to be a problem.
On the subject of gearing, this is the first time i will be running a brushless/lipo setup. Where is a good place to start with the gearing?
Also, a few pages back there is a pic with a kfactory(?) center brace that goes over the top deck allowing a lipo. I've bought one thinking i was getting that but the one i have received goes under the top deck, so i cant fit a lipo with it. Where can i find the one pictured on the car a few pages back?
Anyone from the UK know a good website/store for parts?
11-15-2008, 09:37 AM
#1481
The E4 uses the under deck brace. The E4RS has a diffenrent set up to clear a hard cased Lipo.
A brushless motor should just drop in with no problem. Are you having mesh problems? I'm using a 96T spur and 44T pinion with a Novak 13.5 and a 110T spur with a 28T pinion with a LRP 4.5 in my E4. (Internal ratio is 2.059)
A brushless motor should just drop in with no problem. Are you having mesh problems? I'm using a 96T spur and 44T pinion with a Novak 13.5 and a 110T spur with a 28T pinion with a LRP 4.5 in my E4. (Internal ratio is 2.059)
11-15-2008, 09:39 AM
#1482
11-15-2008, 10:00 AM
#1483
Tech Initiate
The deck brace i purchased must be for the original E4 and not The RS. I wonder where the brace on the car pictured a couple of pages back is from. I cant find anything on the KFactory website.
The Orion Vortex seems quite long as when is place it fouls on the chassis. At the front of the motor, although there is a bevel, one of the three screws fouls on the chassis restricting how you can orientate the motor. This is the same at the back of the motor where there is no bevel at all.
I have made a small bevel on the chassis around the cut out for the motor and i now have sufficient movement up/down and i can rotate the motor to some degree.
However, there is little front/rear play maybe 1-2mm and the motor sits towards the rear of the car meaning i cant install a heatsink as it will foul on the pulley.
I am now having to remove material from the side brace (where the side belt tensioner is attached) to allow more play. I haven't tried to mesh yet but I'm worried that with the motor being so restricted even with modifications that my gearing options will be more limited.
Ps, thanks for the link!
The Orion Vortex seems quite long as when is place it fouls on the chassis. At the front of the motor, although there is a bevel, one of the three screws fouls on the chassis restricting how you can orientate the motor. This is the same at the back of the motor where there is no bevel at all.
I have made a small bevel on the chassis around the cut out for the motor and i now have sufficient movement up/down and i can rotate the motor to some degree.
However, there is little front/rear play maybe 1-2mm and the motor sits towards the rear of the car meaning i cant install a heatsink as it will foul on the pulley.
I am now having to remove material from the side brace (where the side belt tensioner is attached) to allow more play. I haven't tried to mesh yet but I'm worried that with the motor being so restricted even with modifications that my gearing options will be more limited.
Ps, thanks for the link!
11-16-2008, 03:11 AM
#1484
hi pinkpanther
my modification for the brushless,i have a E4 sedan
http://teammagice4.blogspot.com/2008...lantation.html
,otherwise it must be like me change these parts to transform it into E4rs:
503232
503207
503208 <------------- Upper Deck Front Stiffener Post (2)
503221
503231
olivier
my modification for the brushless,i have a E4 sedan
http://teammagice4.blogspot.com/2008...lantation.html
,otherwise it must be like me change these parts to transform it into E4rs:
503232
503207
503208 <------------- Upper Deck Front Stiffener Post (2)
503221
503231
olivier
