Serpent S411
#2236
Maybe you overlooked this one, so therefore a reply as a quote.
How long run the geardiff with toothpaste?
- must that be done both ways, or is that not important?
- can one in some way feel if it is run in properly? For instance by turning it with both hands and feel how the mechanism inside moves, or so?
How long run the geardiff with toothpaste?
- must that be done both ways, or is that not important?
- can one in some way feel if it is run in properly? For instance by turning it with both hands and feel how the mechanism inside moves, or so?
#2237
first setup for the S411 - High grip carpet
Keep in mind that this was only my first day with the car, but I was very happy with this setup. My lap times (10.2 to 10.4) at my local (well 2 hours away) high grip carpet track were the same as what I would get on this layout with my xray. I only worked on changes to the spring rates, shock oils, roll center and rear diff oils, and left everything else the same. Also I don't have the ECS drives and the flex upper deck yet, which I think will help gain some more speed and consistency. The layout of the track is a great combination of tight corners, low and high speed chicanes and hard braking zones, so it was a good test for the car.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
Last edited by Martin Crisp; 12-25-2011 at 10:11 AM.
#2238
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Keep in mind that this was only my first day with the car, but I was very happy with this setup. My lap times (10.2 to 10.4) at my local (well 2 hours away) high grip carpet track were the same as what I would get on this layout with my xray. I only worked on changes to the spring rates, shock oils, roll center and rear diff oils, and left everything else the same. Also I don't have the ECS drives and the flex upper deck yet, which I think will help gain some more speed and consistency. The layout of the track is a great combination of tight corners, low and high speed chicanes and hard braking zones, so it was a good test for the car.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
#2240
#2241
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same here.. i hate the small files on rctech.. i have asked to let them be bigger for setup sheets but have been turned down every time.. jeremy
#2242
Tech Regular
Keep in mind that this was only my first day with the car, but I was very happy with this setup. My lap times (10.2 to 10.4) at my local (well 2 hours away) high grip carpet track were the same as what I would get on this layout with my xray. I only worked on changes to the spring rates, shock oils, roll center and rear diff oils, and left everything else the same. Also I don't have the ECS drives and the flex upper deck yet, which I think will help gain some more speed and consistency. The layout of the track is a great combination of tight corners, low and high speed chicanes and hard braking zones, so it was a good test for the car.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
Alarmbells (not christmasbells) are ringing after looking af this setup.
1,391gr does this thing weigh? Jezus.
How am I gonna get to 1,350gr, which are the rules overhere.
Very disappointed on that part. Have to reconsider me buying this car.
Dragging around 41gr extra weight is not very appealing.
#2243
Tech Regular
#2244
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Location: a very small town in wisconsin that is in the middle of absolutely no where
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Alarmbells (not christmasbells) are ringing after looking af this setup.
1,391gr does this thing weigh? Jezus.
How am I gonna get to 1,350gr, which are the rules overhere.
Very disappointed on that part. Have to reconsider me buying this car.
Dragging around 41gr extra weight is not very appealing.
1,391gr does this thing weigh? Jezus.
How am I gonna get to 1,350gr, which are the rules overhere.
Very disappointed on that part. Have to reconsider me buying this car.
Dragging around 41gr extra weight is not very appealing.
#2245
Alarmbells (not christmasbells) are ringing after looking af this setup.
1,391gr does this thing weigh? Jezus.
How am I gonna get to 1,350gr, which are the rules overhere.
Very disappointed on that part. Have to reconsider me buying this car.
Dragging around 41gr extra weight is not very appealing.
1,391gr does this thing weigh? Jezus.
How am I gonna get to 1,350gr, which are the rules overhere.
Very disappointed on that part. Have to reconsider me buying this car.
Dragging around 41gr extra weight is not very appealing.
#2246
#2247
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iTrader: (63)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: a very small town in wisconsin that is in the middle of absolutely no where
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i remember using toothpaste to polish the armatures on brushed motors!!!! what i do is sand the back of the diff gears.. this will give a tade more spacing where they meet.. this is what i do on 1/8 scale diffs also.. i also beed blast/sand blast the gears on the diffs.. this makes for a very smooth surface.. i love being and auto tech.. you get to use alot of the big car stuff on this little stuff.. jeremy
#2248
Tech Apprentice
Keep in mind that this was only my first day with the car, but I was very happy with this setup. My lap times (10.2 to 10.4) at my local (well 2 hours away) high grip carpet track were the same as what I would get on this layout with my xray. I only worked on changes to the spring rates, shock oils, roll center and rear diff oils, and left everything else the same. Also I don't have the ECS drives and the flex upper deck yet, which I think will help gain some more speed and consistency. The layout of the track is a great combination of tight corners, low and high speed chicanes and hard braking zones, so it was a good test for the car.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
Having said that, the car felt incredibly smooth and easy to drive. I tried some higher roll center settings with softer (white) springs, and although the car had more lateral grip, it was a little harder to drive consistently, as it tends to be with most cars.
Also, as I got use to the car, and hit a lot of boards I tested out how strong this car is! I did not break any parts This surprised me given some of the hits it took.
Attached is my setup.
Cheers.
What downstop settings did you use?
And did you take away any screws in topdeck? looks like that on the setup.
Best R
Marcus
#2249
Tech Regular
Did you leave it at that then?
If not, which follow up?
If you would have used it longer than 2 mins each way, would the result have been better than?
Or is the stuff simply not cut out to do the job properly?
It's the brown kinda thick stuff, isn't it?
Put it in the diff up untill the diffaxle, or how much?
Last edited by Kensei; 12-25-2011 at 02:00 PM.
#2250
I did not measure the droop using that approach. I measured droop above ride height. I do this by first measuring the ride height and then lift the car off the table sot that the tires are barely touching the surface and measure that ride height. The difference is the droop. I ran 2.5mm droop in the front and 3.0mm droop in the rear using this method.
As for the screws...I took out the 4 outer most screws and the one screw that screws into the motor mount.