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#2611
Tech Master
iTrader: (3)
WARPSPEED CHASSIS INPUT
Just wanted to put my two cwnts in on the new Warpspeed chassis and top deck. I have been running it for about a month and the biggest difference I saw was consistancy from left to right. I became instantly more consistant on my lap time because the car felt the same everywhere on the track. The car seemed to rotate alot better too. This thing is a must have for mission owners. I run the 3mm and the solid top deck Which is available separately.
#2612
I may have to get that chassis for my mission....
#2613
JacoSA, this is a setup I like with Foams. I 've run several differnt brads, either Front and Rear compound or 4 rear compound tyres, setup is quite similar ( if using correct shore)
Front:
Camber/ 3 deg
Toe in/ 1 deg
Ride hight/ 5.0 mm
Tower/#3
Arm/#1
Suspension mount/lower hole
Hub link/#2
Spring/Schu Blue (400gm/mm)
Oil/40wt
Piston/3 hole vari
Castor/8.5 or 11 deg (depending on conditions)
Thin swaybar
Oneway Diff
0 deg inboard toe
Rear:
Camber/ 2.5 deg
Ride hight/ 5.0mm
No Anti-squat
Tower/#2
Arm/#1
Suspension mount/ lower hole
Hub link/#2
Spring/ Schu blue (400gm/mm)
Oil/40wt
Piston/3 hole vari
Rear wheelbase/ Middle
Thin swaybar
2deg In-board Toe
2.5deg per side
Sometimes I needed on-power steering. To find it I used a (stiffer) Corally Yellow rear spring (500gm/mm) or moved the rear shocks to hole 2, depending on circumstances. Should be a good starting point for outdoor ashphalt.
Front:
Camber/ 3 deg
Toe in/ 1 deg
Ride hight/ 5.0 mm
Tower/#3
Arm/#1
Suspension mount/lower hole
Hub link/#2
Spring/Schu Blue (400gm/mm)
Oil/40wt
Piston/3 hole vari
Castor/8.5 or 11 deg (depending on conditions)
Thin swaybar
Oneway Diff
0 deg inboard toe
Rear:
Camber/ 2.5 deg
Ride hight/ 5.0mm
No Anti-squat
Tower/#2
Arm/#1
Suspension mount/ lower hole
Hub link/#2
Spring/ Schu blue (400gm/mm)
Oil/40wt
Piston/3 hole vari
Rear wheelbase/ Middle
Thin swaybar
2deg In-board Toe
2.5deg per side
Sometimes I needed on-power steering. To find it I used a (stiffer) Corally Yellow rear spring (500gm/mm) or moved the rear shocks to hole 2, depending on circumstances. Should be a good starting point for outdoor ashphalt.
Last edited by BagofSkill; 07-31-2002 at 11:56 PM.
#2615
Re: WARPSPEED CHASSIS INPUT
Originally posted by MUFFIN
Just wanted to put my two cwnts in on the new Warpspeed chassis and top deck. I have been running it for about a month and the biggest difference I saw was consistancy from left to right. I became instantly more consistant on my lap time because the car felt the same everywhere on the track. The car seemed to rotate alot better too. This thing is a must have for mission owners. I run the 3mm and the solid top deck Which is available separately.
Just wanted to put my two cwnts in on the new Warpspeed chassis and top deck. I have been running it for about a month and the biggest difference I saw was consistancy from left to right. I became instantly more consistant on my lap time because the car felt the same everywhere on the track. The car seemed to rotate alot better too. This thing is a must have for mission owners. I run the 3mm and the solid top deck Which is available separately.
#2618
Roll Center mod
I'm considering making Roll center plates for the Mission that would allow an easier way to change roll center. The only mod you would need to make is cutting off a little bit of the top of the servo saver pipe, like 1 - 2mm.
is this something you guys would like?
Would you prefer them in Carbon Fiber plate, fiberglass or plastic?
Is there a need to change roll center in the rear? We could make both front and rear. We can also do them in different thicknesses to adjust roll center from say 2mm and 3mm, less, more?
Would anyone be intersted in this? Let me know what you think. Feel free to email at, [email protected]
Thanks much,
Ben, Team PRP
is this something you guys would like?
Would you prefer them in Carbon Fiber plate, fiberglass or plastic?
Is there a need to change roll center in the rear? We could make both front and rear. We can also do them in different thicknesses to adjust roll center from say 2mm and 3mm, less, more?
Would anyone be intersted in this? Let me know what you think. Feel free to email at, [email protected]
Thanks much,
Ben, Team PRP
#2619
Re: Roll Center mod
Originally posted by TeamPRP
I'm considering making Roll center plates for the Mission that would allow an easier way to change roll center. The only mod you would need to make is cutting off a little bit of the top of the servo saver pipe, like 1 - 2mm.
is this something you guys would like?
Would you prefer them in Carbon Fiber plate, fiberglass or plastic?
Is there a need to change roll center in the rear? We could make both front and rear. We can also do them in different thicknesses to adjust roll center from say 2mm and 3mm, less, more?
Would anyone be intersted in this? Let me know what you think. Feel free to email at, [email protected]
Thanks much,
Ben, Team PRP
I'm considering making Roll center plates for the Mission that would allow an easier way to change roll center. The only mod you would need to make is cutting off a little bit of the top of the servo saver pipe, like 1 - 2mm.
is this something you guys would like?
Would you prefer them in Carbon Fiber plate, fiberglass or plastic?
Is there a need to change roll center in the rear? We could make both front and rear. We can also do them in different thicknesses to adjust roll center from say 2mm and 3mm, less, more?
Would anyone be intersted in this? Let me know what you think. Feel free to email at, [email protected]
Thanks much,
Ben, Team PRP
#2620
Yeah, I haven't decided if I should produce them or not and I wanted to get some feedback first. Thanks for the info, cornerspeed!
#2621
Whoops, I stuffed up, had to correct the foam setup I posted above. Sorry guys...
#2622
Tech Rookie
What is the part numbers of the parts you use to change the roll center?I know it is from one of there off road cars.I live in South Africa so there is no off road cars from Schumacher here,thats why I'll need to order the parts from the states.I am currently useing shims from associated.
#2623
Re: Re: Roll Center mod
Originally posted by cornerspeed
I have run my car the way your saying earlier this year. Its ok, but I think I like it better with the Fireblade blocks. Been running it this way for 3 or 4 months now. I hardly now bend front lower hinge pins. Also this way you don't raise the steering bellcranks and change the steering geometry. Don't get me wrong, it works either way.
I have run my car the way your saying earlier this year. Its ok, but I think I like it better with the Fireblade blocks. Been running it this way for 3 or 4 months now. I hardly now bend front lower hinge pins. Also this way you don't raise the steering bellcranks and change the steering geometry. Don't get me wrong, it works either way.
Actually, since you equally raise the bellcranks with the suspension arms the geometry would stay the same in conjunction with the inner hingepins and arms.
Any other comments about this idea of making plates for adjusting roll center? Would there be any interest in this product?
Thanks again,
Ben, Team PRP
http://home.attbi.com/~teamprp
#2624
Tech Elite
iTrader: (12)
Originally posted by JacoSA
What is the part numbers of the parts you use to change the roll center?I know it is from one of there off road cars.I live in South Africa so there is no off road cars from Schumacher here,thats why I'll need to order the parts from the states.I am currently useing shims from associated.
What is the part numbers of the parts you use to change the roll center?I know it is from one of there off road cars.I live in South Africa so there is no off road cars from Schumacher here,thats why I'll need to order the parts from the states.I am currently useing shims from associated.
#2625
Tech Regular
there were a number of earlier posts about breaking parts, with some questioning how so many parts could be breaking. In my experience recently, as long as I was running rubber tires I rarely broke a part (unless I hit something HARD)...for the last three weeks I've been running foams, and in that time I've broken a number of upper front arms, even after screwing the link into the inner more, stripped two spurs, and had other minor probs...I just got to wonder if its not the wider, higher traction foams stressing things more and causing more breakage...just an observation...
May be the reason why some of you are having more problems with breakage than others...my 2 cents
May be the reason why some of you are having more problems with breakage than others...my 2 cents