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Old 02-18-2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Seisick
..........................I just broke the conrod and sg shaflt on both of my sirios evo 2, 3 and 5 port without any reason whatsoever. quality and reliability again!......................
I'm going on to my third year with Sirios and Sirio/Collari's and have never seen something like that?????? Are you absolutely sure you are doing things right????

I'm now working on STS engines and my Dragon D3R factory modified is ballistic, stable and reliable...To me that engine has the best cost- performance relatinoship I have seen.

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Old 02-19-2005, 05:58 AM
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yep, on the 3 port the conrod broke at the place where it meets the shaft´s pin, and on the 5 port the shaft broke just before the opening, the engines were always in the 200s f. ran with rd turbo pipe, s 7 plugs and 30 nitro. the 3 port was the first batch of evo 2 (small head and standard shaft). the funny thing is that the track is tight and medium size straight, so the engines were never put into the outer limits of their performance.
tz will be my practice engine and evo for competition.
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Originally posted by Seisick
yep, on the 3 port the conrod broke at the place where it meets the shaft´s pin, and on the 5 port the shaft broke just before the opening, the engines were always in the 200s f. ran with rd turbo pipe, s 7 plugs and 30 nitro. the 3 port was the first batch of evo 2 (small head and standard shaft). the funny thing is that the track is tight and medium size straight, so the engines were never put into the outer limits of their performance.
tz will be my practice engine and evo for competition.
AHHH......that explains it, first batch of Evo 2 black head Sirio's had an issue with short life of conrod bushing, which created a fast over-tolerance with crank pin, which led to fracture of either rod or crank, if conrod was not changed after break-in. After that factory changed hardness on crankpin and rod bushing for more normal wear...but in any case, running on 30% Nitro on any engine, demands eye inspection of rod-crank play after every race.
I did measurement to crank pin on a new stock Sirio engine and found that it has 4.428mm. The right play between crank pin and conrod bushing is 0.04 – 0.05 mm.
I don't know if you're able to check it, but I suggest as a general rule that engines that are run hard should have a conrod replacement at least every 2 to gallons of fuel regardless of visual inspection.
The life of the conrod depends mainly on the quality of fuel you use, as the lubrication and the right carburetion keeps your engine running well for long time.
Obtain the correct factory replacement conrod and "new wrist pin clips". Install the new rod exactly like the old one was before you removed it. Note the oil hole in the conrod should be towards the crank.
The fact that the crankshaft pin must be absolutely round (as must be the hole in the connecting rod) is one of the most overlooked aspects of engine wear, and can result in damage even with a brand new rod. The proper way to measure this is to measure with a micrometer on one axes (in line with the direction the rod would travel) and then again on the axes perpendicular to the first. The difference of these two measurements should be < 0.002 if any. If it has more then change the crankshaft, and bearings.

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Nice. Any info on specs yet?
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:51 AM
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When will this engine available on the market? Is it 3 or 5 ports design?
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:36 PM
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what is the bore and stroke of this engine?? If it is a longer stroke, then this engine should have more torque for great acceleration and fuel mileage
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3 ports spec.

Bore 13.8 mm X Stroke 14.0mm
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5 ports spec.
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I can see now we will have a NON ITALIAN made engine that is up to par with the big boys, for below $200 each....
I have the 18TZ for now........that engine is just WAY too crazy for 200mm TC, so I will put that on my 235mm instead.....and this 12TZ will be on my shopping list.....
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Hey Rookie! How are ya? Yeah finally the OS .12TZ is coming. I can't wait to hear about it. May just be my next engine for the R40.
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WOWOW 1.5hp, and we all know that OS rate their engines realistically, this engine should absolutely haul ASS!
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Originally posted by HarKonnenD
Hey Rookie! How are ya? Yeah finally the OS .12TZ is coming. I can't wait to hear about it. May just be my next engine for the R40.
Yeah, sup..............I am excited about this engine, Mr. Benny Lee is my motor engineer and he mod all of my engine for racing, when he was modding my OS 18TZ, he realized that the material OS used is up to par (it might be better) then the material that Nova Rossi is using (NR or RR series).......the engineering is as good as the big boys. THAT, gave me confident about this 12 TZ engine.

When I was in HK 3 weeks ago, I finally test run the Benny Lee modded TZ18.............I was using only 25% Trinity fuel, needle still running RICH for brand new engine, my NTC3 is totally UNCONTROLLABLE (totally expected...2.25HP on NTC3 should not be controllable).......but on the 240 feet straight dash, my NTC3 were out run (come from behind) to those with Nova MAX P5 5 port turbo MOD engine 710.....not just 1 time, I tired several times.....my NTC3 is in close range to those 1/8th cars with 8 port MAX motor...

Only downside, 18TZ can only last me close to 4 minutes, it might be because I was still running RICH side....

But this 12TZ, is definitely a good choice of 12 engine.....no more 12TR or R spec, TZ is Nova Rossi standard....I would not say it will be Better then the latest Nova Rossi LL series, but I do not think it will be any less then something like NR3 or NR5.

PS...public price from Japan, P3 = 22,000 Yen, P5 = 24,000 yen, usually, 100 yen = $1 USD, so, it is NOT as cheap as I expected, but the final price should be lower then $220 and $240.
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Yeah since the newbs been hearing the .18tz can fit in nitro sedans they all wanna try it and assume they will own everyone. Little do they know what they're in for . I try to convince them to buy something less powerful, but they won't listen. Oh well.
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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
Yeah, sup..............I am excited about this engine, Mr. Benny Lee is my motor engineer and he mod all of my engine for racing, when he was modding my OS 18TZ, he realized that the material OS used is up to par (it might be better) then the material that Nova Rossi is using (NR or RR series).......the engineering is as good as the big boys. THAT, gave me confident about this 12 TZ engine.

When I was in HK 3 weeks ago, I finally test run the Benny Lee modded TZ18.............I was using only 25% Trinity fuel, needle still running RICH for brand new engine, my NTC3 is totally UNCONTROLLABLE (totally expected...2.25HP on NTC3 should not be controllable).......but on the 240 feet straight dash, my NTC3 were out run (come from behind) to those with Nova MAX P5 5 port turbo MOD engine 710.....not just 1 time, I tired several times.....my NTC3 is in close range to those 1/8th cars with 8 port MAX motor...

Only downside, 18TZ can only last me close to 4 minutes, it might be because I was still running RICH side....

But this 12TZ, is definitely a good choice of 12 engine.....no more 12TR or R spec, TZ is Nova Rossi standard....I would not say it will be Better then the latest Nova Rossi LL series, but I do not think it will be any less then something like NR3 or NR5.

PS...public price from Japan, P3 = 22,000 Yen, P5 = 24,000 yen, usually, 100 yen = $1 USD, so, it is NOT as cheap as I expected, but the final price should be lower then $220 and $240.
rookie what is this new LL novarossi motor you speak of?
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