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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)

Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases

January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates

AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)

Below OLD Rear Motor Content ---
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A800 Information

New Parts

June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.

Kit Updates

May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)

Setups

Major Race Wins

2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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05-21-2016, 06:15 AM

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I ran car first time last week. Diff leaked so guess that tip is a must. Thinking slight heavier but little less to compensate for expansion.

The lighter method is really easy. Just remember to take the pulley off.

05-21-2016, 06:35 AM

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and sometimes the leakage is due to an over fill..
there are various tricks, but in reality my diff is the most consistent when i maintain it by re-filling. this isn't the difference between the car driving well or not --- but i can be the difference between winning and losing the A!

05-21-2016, 05:02 PM

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Will the at21+2.0 be released?

On both Max's and Viljami's setup, they use 0.5mm under the centre stiffener? What does that do? Reduce the effect of the stiffener on chassis stiffness?

05-21-2016, 07:16 PM

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Will the at21+2.0 be released?

On both Max's and Viljami's setup, they use 0.5mm under the centre stiffener? What does that do? Reduce the effect of the stiffener on chassis stiffness?

The shims under the brace help let the chassis twist a little more than without.

05-23-2016, 12:43 AM

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Hello everybody,

When is the chassis 2.25 will be available?

05-25-2016, 11:51 AM

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I am very happy how the A800 performs, but I am missing some turn in at high speed sweeps. It seems like it just slides over the front tires, missing some grip. I only run on carpet.
Any suggestions on what to try of setup changes to get some more grip in that specific situation.
my currently setup is attached

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05-25-2016, 12:15 PM

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I am very happy how the A800 performs, but I am missing some turn in at high speed sweeps. It seems like it just slides over the front tires, missing some grip.
Any suggestions on what to try of setup changes to get some more grip in that specific situation.
my currently setup is attached

It seems you run at low track asphalt.
Try petit rc and get the set-up of Ed IJzerman MACH Heemstede, I know it is modified but my fellow mate did this with his Stock 13.5 A800 and he could afford much highers corner speed, it is worth trying i tell you, good luck.

Next time give a full set-up sheet, and type of track/asphalt we can judge the situation more precisely.

05-25-2016, 12:19 PM

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Well noted. I only run on carpet. I just put that info in my post. Thanks for pointing that out.

05-25-2016, 02:55 PM

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How much drag do you have on the front of your chassis?
Two things that I notice with your current setup
Number one the front dampening / spring rate is very soft
Number 2 your arm height is very high

05-26-2016, 04:07 AM

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new parts and review of AM87

SPR01-98
new version of the SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending.
Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.

SPR01S-98
new version of the SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending.
Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.

C04AL +0.5
Alloy version of the C04M +0.5

I have been using the new bumper brace (AM87) for the ABS and it is rock solid! Way nicer looking and also stops any movement of the front bumper on the ABS.

Thanks,

Leonard.

05-26-2016, 04:09 AM

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Someone make Awesomatix how-to videos On YouTube!

Good guide to get you started

05-26-2016, 04:14 AM

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Cant we just bend the spring a little? Ive seen this done before.

05-26-2016, 04:44 AM

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Are you using the ABS Leonard?

05-26-2016, 05:03 AM

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Are you using the ABS Leonard?

Yes. Been using it since I got the A800. It's so simple and works so well!!!

05-26-2016, 06:47 AM

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Good guide to get you started

Do you have the guide for setting up the A800, especially setting the spring rate. How can I translate the spring rate in the setup posted on petitrc onto the car? Thanks.

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