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Old 01-13-2011, 03:54 AM   #556
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I was last saturday and sunday to a race but some of my clubmembers tried the BD on the indoor and outdoor track with a 17,5. on the outdoor also with a 13,5.

For what they told me the owner of the BD has orderd an other speedo.
He is now (as all the payments are don) a member of our club.
He was not happy to see that he was with his 17,5 way to slow indoor and outdoor. Indoor he could keep up with his 13,5 but he had to push till the limit.
Outdoor he was no match even not with his 13,5.

Our tracks are big out here and you need a Turbo.
They tested it against a Tekin and a GM. Tekin and GM were to fast on the straight.
This is.where people go wrong with the BD. You will never keep up with Tekins or Hobbywings at the end of.the straights, but you beat them at the start.... If the sraight is.long enough then you can't beat them. However you will destroy them in the.infield. Test you gearing by lap times, not motor temps ajd you will usually find that you have geared up to much.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:44 AM   #557
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Tekin has natural Drag, you will never get the same feeling on this speedie im afraid. But i dont know why you would, The tekin when it has too much drag boggs down in the corners, the BD will just keep up the corner speed Its also because of the difference in gearing on both speedo's.
Now i know ... Thanks
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I was last saturday and sunday to a race but some of my clubmembers tried the BD on the indoor and outdoor track with a 17,5. on the outdoor also with a 13,5.

For what they told me the owner of the BD has orderd an other speedo.
He is now (as all the payments are don) a member of our club.
He was not happy to see that he was with his 17,5 way to slow indoor and outdoor. Indoor he could keep up with his 13,5 but he had to push till the limit.
Outdoor he was no match even not with his 13,5.

Our tracks are big out here and you need a Turbo.
They tested it against a Tekin and a GM. Tekin and GM were to fast on the straight.
Can you give us details of the track (with pics and/or vids if possible), the difference in laptimes and what motors were being used with the black diamond and the gearing.

We have been using the BD on tracks that are resonable in size and with the right motors we have been able to gear so there is virtually no difference in top speed.
Indoors there should be no difference, if anything the BD should be faster due to the corener exit power and control.

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Can you give us details of the track (with pics and/or vids if possible), the difference in laptimes and what motors were being used with the black diamond and the gearing.

We have been using the BD on tracks that are resonable in size and with the right motors we have been able to gear so there is virtually no difference in top speed.
Indoors there should be no difference, if anything the BD should be faster due to the corener exit power and control.

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This is.excatly what we have seen here in oz....
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:11 PM   #560
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hello
I need your help
Use the BD with ballistic 10.5 in a touring car.
I run on a track with a 80 meters straight,
which setting do you recommend? FDR? Timing?
I need to have a missile on the straight and good speed in the infield....
sorry for my English.
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Hi
I have two black Diamond esc ,one is V1 and other is the V2
Does anyone here USA does take them and upgrade to V2 ROAR STOCK spec?Please pm
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You send them back to CRC Franko
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hello
I need your help
Use the BD with ballistic 10.5 in a touring car.
I run on a track with a 80 meters straight,
which setting do you recommend? FDR? Timing?
I need to have a missile on the straight and good speed in the infield....
sorry for my English.
Start with 5.5FDR and see how it goes. I am.not sure.about the current.wisdom with ballistic.motors.as I had one and didn't like it but.I would say start with standard timing and if.it.runs.nice and.cool.try up to 2 notches of.extra timing for more power everywhere.
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You send them back to CRC Franko
What is the turn around time ?
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What is the turn around time ?
The ESC has to.be sent off to sweden for.updating. Its a bit of a pain but AE believe that having downloadable firmware and.updates means that other manudactuers can d/l and analyze their software. I don't know why they worry.about.it because all the important stuff can.be.analyzed by using a brushless dyno and PC already.
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hello
I need your help
Use the BD with ballistic 10.5 in a touring car.
I run on a track with a 80 meters straight,
which setting do you recommend? FDR? Timing?
I need to have a missile on the straight and good speed in the infield....
sorry for my English.
Thank you vey much

Try it out tomorrow, I hope to be at the same level of speed as hobbywing


to get more speed better shorten FDR and increase the timing or lengthen the FDR??
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Thank you vey much

Try it out tomorrow, I hope to be at the same level of speed as hobbywing


to get more speed better shorten FDR and increase the timing or lengthen the FDR??
You have already made a big mistake.... FORGET the speed, look at the lap times. Do a run and see where you are at. Then make a change at a time (gearing or timing) and see what happens to the lap times. Straight line speed does not decide who wins or loses a circuit race, driving and lap speed potential do.
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Yesterday the BD driver traint with his new speedo and he had almost broke my track record.
They told me that he changed back to the BD and that he was 0,3sec slower than with his new speedo. (tekin RS)

He has his speedo online for sale now.

He tried today his new speedo by his other club and he has set there the laprecord. It was the laprecord of a GM driver and now it is his lap record.
he was there 0,5 sec faster than he was with his BD.

He used his BD for 7 months and he was never as fast as he is now.

Sorry but the reslulds say that the speedo is not faster than the GM or Tekin.
I spoke to him on the phone today and he told me that all the BD drivers ad his club agree that the speedo comes to short on there track.
I don't now the size of the track there but ad my club the straight is 75M and also a straight of 40M.
2 180 corners.

I was not by the test of the BD against the Tekin, GM and LRP.
I had to work this week so I didn't go to the club.
I have a wife and children ad home and they are more importend than my days ad the rc club. so the comming race of my club will have an other winner after 3 years.
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Selling my spare AE LV soft 2.1 ESC.
Brand new in box.

if you are interested, please PM me.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ml#post8512001

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with the BD do you want to turn up the motor timing or run it at zero?

picked up a DUO1 13.5 ans i run on a small carpet track 75'x35'.

i tried different combos and just wanted to get some input. i geared it 88/34 with middle hole motor timing. had a fast laps but dropped off at the end. then i geared down and totally went in the wrong direction

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