143LikesAwesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
01-03-2014, 07:48 AM
#5102
Gearing question...
new to the awesomatix guys... last night was the maiden voyage for the A700 and I struggled a bit with the gearing.
im running 17.5 class... longitudinal layout... i geared my motor 80/42... running a fantom motor works D3.5 High tourque rotor 12.5... max timing 3.96 FDR... the car just seemed slow top speed... but when i went to 43t pinion, it seemed sluggish. Was running a 6500 SMC 70c pack also...
I am used to an Xray and didnt know if there was just a difference in the feel of a belt drive vs a shaft drive or there was something i wasn't taking into consideration with the gear ratios... thanks in advance.
justin
new to the awesomatix guys... last night was the maiden voyage for the A700 and I struggled a bit with the gearing.
im running 17.5 class... longitudinal layout... i geared my motor 80/42... running a fantom motor works D3.5 High tourque rotor 12.5... max timing 3.96 FDR... the car just seemed slow top speed... but when i went to 43t pinion, it seemed sluggish. Was running a 6500 SMC 70c pack also...
I am used to an Xray and didnt know if there was just a difference in the feel of a belt drive vs a shaft drive or there was something i wasn't taking into consideration with the gear ratios... thanks in advance.
justin
01-03-2014, 07:49 AM
#5103
Gearing question...
new to the awesomatix guys... last night was the maiden voyage for the A700 and I struggled a bit with the gearing.
im running 17.5 class... longitudinal layout... i geared my motor 80/42... running a fantom motor works D3.5 High tourque rotor 12.5... max timing 3.96 FDR... the car just seemed slow top speed... but when i went to 43t pinion, it seemed sluggish. Was running a 6500 SMC 70c pack also...
I am used to an Xray and didnt know if there was just a difference in the feel of a belt drive vs a shaft drive or there was something i wasn't taking into consideration with the gear ratios... thanks in advance.
justin
new to the awesomatix guys... last night was the maiden voyage for the A700 and I struggled a bit with the gearing.
im running 17.5 class... longitudinal layout... i geared my motor 80/42... running a fantom motor works D3.5 High tourque rotor 12.5... max timing 3.96 FDR... the car just seemed slow top speed... but when i went to 43t pinion, it seemed sluggish. Was running a 6500 SMC 70c pack also...
I am used to an Xray and didnt know if there was just a difference in the feel of a belt drive vs a shaft drive or there was something i wasn't taking into consideration with the gear ratios... thanks in advance.
justin
01-03-2014, 08:07 AM
#5104
I normally run 80/44 on my D3.5(light blue rotor, max timing) for indoor tracks. Its a rocketship.
29TC- I believe the Evo is coming with the GD1. They are still working on getting the internal parts made for the GD2 (you need Xray parts right now).
29TC- I believe the Evo is coming with the GD1. They are still working on getting the internal parts made for the GD2 (you need Xray parts right now).
01-03-2014, 09:19 AM
#5105
An approximation of Karl's setup, except on an Evo with GD2. I ended up switching to the (softer) shock settings that the Klingforths have been using to whip our assess lately and it was a lot more stable at our place.
The setup still needs some work to be right for me. Mostly it wants to oversteer exiting sharp turns. Going to half sauce up front made things a lot more reasonable, but I prefer full sauce when I can get away with it. I also need to adjust my driving to be smoother and more easy. I've gotten in the habit of setting everything to kill which is the only way I can make the T4'14 respectable, and it's not needed with the Awesomatix. The car seems a lot better when I just let it work instead of forcing it into every gap.
The setup still needs some work to be right for me. Mostly it wants to oversteer exiting sharp turns. Going to half sauce up front made things a lot more reasonable, but I prefer full sauce when I can get away with it. I also need to adjust my driving to be smoother and more easy. I've gotten in the habit of setting everything to kill which is the only way I can make the T4'14 respectable, and it's not needed with the Awesomatix. The car seems a lot better when I just let it work instead of forcing it into every gap.
01-03-2014, 10:53 AM
#5106
An approximation of Karl's setup, except on an Evo with GD2. I ended up switching to the (softer) shock settings that the Klingforths have been using to whip our assess lately and it was a lot more stable at our place.
The setup still needs some work to be right for me. Mostly it wants to oversteer exiting sharp turns. Going to half sauce up front made things a lot more reasonable, but I prefer full sauce when I can get away with it. I also need to adjust my driving to be smoother and more easy. I've gotten in the habit of setting everything to kill which is the only way I can make the T4'14 respectable, and it's not needed with the Awesomatix. The car seems a lot better when I just let it work instead of forcing it into every gap.
The setup still needs some work to be right for me. Mostly it wants to oversteer exiting sharp turns. Going to half sauce up front made things a lot more reasonable, but I prefer full sauce when I can get away with it. I also need to adjust my driving to be smoother and more easy. I've gotten in the habit of setting everything to kill which is the only way I can make the T4'14 respectable, and it's not needed with the Awesomatix. The car seems a lot better when I just let it work instead of forcing it into every gap.
I think we all need to see a setup from the Klingforths
I thought Karls shock package (and setup) drove too much on the nose. By swapping shock settings over to what Gee has been running I was able to push the car more.
It is amazing how different people like things...
01-03-2014, 03:23 PM
#5109
You know know it goes, like when you go up to tech and set your car on the flat board they use to check right height that's covered in sauce. It always gets in my head when it gets on the half of the front tires I left dry. Irrational, I know. I'm not sure the oily stuff that's left behind when people set their cars down really does much anyway.
Anyway, message received, back to half fronts!
Anyway, message received, back to half fronts!
01-03-2014, 03:39 PM
#5112
I always try to run full sauce at club racing, so I can make the simple adjustment of less sauce for mega grip big races. If you need half sauce at a club race, you might be in trouble at a big race
01-03-2014, 04:11 PM
#5114
What oil? I would probably start with 2K in the GD2. I have been running 3k in the GD1 for 17.5. Freddy ran 3K @ ETS in the GD2 for mod, whereas I think they had been running 5K for the GD1