333LikesXray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread
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11-01-2016, 09:54 AM
#3976
i think it was a patent issue. not positive but i think that was the case.
quite honestly, no one runs rear motor these days anyway. you can get PLENTY of traction with a standup mid motor, they even have a 4 gear standup tranny which is tons of rear bite. the buggy will handle better mid motor with a 4 gear than 3 gear rear motor and it has almost the same or as much traction but way better handling characteristics and cornering.
quite honestly, no one runs rear motor these days anyway. you can get PLENTY of traction with a standup mid motor, they even have a 4 gear standup tranny which is tons of rear bite. the buggy will handle better mid motor with a 4 gear than 3 gear rear motor and it has almost the same or as much traction but way better handling characteristics and cornering.
11-01-2016, 10:02 AM
#3977
Bent.
One of the big selling points for me was the mid/rear motor conversion that was advertised on the 16 model. I was told numerous times that it was coming. Now that the 17 is out should I assume it was false advertising and xray is not going to make the rear motor conversion
If it is available and I some how missed it. i apologize for the post above
One of the big selling points for me was the mid/rear motor conversion that was advertised on the 16 model. I was told numerous times that it was coming. Now that the 17 is out should I assume it was false advertising and xray is not going to make the rear motor conversion
If it is available and I some how missed it. i apologize for the post above
The '17 model that's been released is the Carpet Edition.
And updated '17 Dirt Edition will be out a little later.
The current Dirt Edition has not been out for a full year yet.
We have ran the rear motor in testing this summer on loose dirt but we have actually preferred to run the 4 gear mid motor Dirt Edition with carbon chassis and a few additional tweaks over the rear motor setup.
It has overall been faster and more consistent in every one of our tests but does require a different driving style compared to the rear motor.
Bent
11-01-2016, 10:03 AM
#3978
Tech Fanatic
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if you did race im a firm believer in xray but im just saying it's something to consider.
11-01-2016, 10:07 AM
#3979
i think it was a patent issue. not positive but i think that was the case.
quite honestly, no one runs rear motor these days anyway. you can get PLENTY of traction with a standup mid motor, they even have a 4 gear standup tranny which is tons of rear bite. the buggy will handle better mid motor with a 4 gear than 3 gear rear motor and it has almost the same or as much traction but way better handling characteristics and cornering.
quite honestly, no one runs rear motor these days anyway. you can get PLENTY of traction with a standup mid motor, they even have a 4 gear standup tranny which is tons of rear bite. the buggy will handle better mid motor with a 4 gear than 3 gear rear motor and it has almost the same or as much traction but way better handling characteristics and cornering.
Bent
11-01-2016, 10:16 AM
#3981
if you dont race then honestly xray probly isn't for you. parts are very expensive and it's made to race at the highest level. no aspect of the car is made for bashing. you'd be better off with the used 22 quite honestly.
if you did race im a firm believer in xray but im just saying it's something to consider.
if you did race im a firm believer in xray but im just saying it's something to consider.
I am annoyed that the RM was never released but I still enjoy the buggy if you look at any of my posts it's always you first recommended buggy. It just can't use it for what I initially intended
11-01-2016, 10:28 AM
#3982
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Price was really not a consideration for me on the buggy. I haven't broken a single piece. Also just because I don't race doesn't mean I don't think it is important to have precise control and top of the line materials
I am annoyed that the RM was never released but I still enjoy the buggy if you look at any of my posts it's always you first recommended buggy. It just can't use it for what I initially intended
I am annoyed that the RM was never released but I still enjoy the buggy if you look at any of my posts it's always you first recommended buggy. It just can't use it for what I initially intended
the reason i dont recommend it for bashing is because it requires a decent pinch of maintenance with constant changing of drive pins and things like that otherwise you'll spend a good amount on outdrives and what not.
this is all fine if you're willing to do it. i just associate that stuff with racing and bashing more with just taking it out running it and not wanting to worry about every little thing - but that's just my opinion, maybe you're different.
11-01-2016, 06:39 PM
#3984
I haven't been on rct in awhile so I haven't been keeping up on the posts in here. my indoor carpet track has switched to onroad for the fall/winter but I just started breaking down the xb2 for freshening up. It's probably been mentioned but will the lay down 3 gear fit in the '16 carpet xb2 without modification? What is the part numbers I would want to buy to do that conversion(gearbox, gears,etc)? I run stock class on a small-medium size track. Would 3 gear even be a good upgrade in my case? Or would I be better off wth the standard 4 gear?
11-01-2016, 06:58 PM
#3985
Tech Fanatic
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I haven't been on rct in awhile so I haven't been keeping up on the posts in here. my indoor carpet track has switched to onroad for the fall/winter but I just started breaking down the xb2 for freshening up. It's probably been mentioned but will the lay down 3 gear fit in the '16 carpet xb2 without modification? What is the part numbers I would want to buy to do that conversion(gearbox, gears,etc)? I run stock class on a small-medium size track. Would 3 gear even be a good upgrade in my case? Or would I be better off wth the standard 4 gear?
11-01-2016, 07:33 PM
#3987
I'm looking at the 17 edition to run on dirt medium grip. Our track is starting to run laydown cars now and the dirt edition looks to be only stand up. Few questions, does the 17 come with wheels? Does associated type front and rear wheels work on the car? How many have run the 16 carpet edition on medium dirt with success? Also what options am I looking at to run it on medium dirt. I'm assuming the ball diff will probably be the number 1 answer. Is the ball diff a direct fit in the carpet car? Also is the meduim and hard parts included in the 17 car like the 16? I have driven both the b6d laydown and 22 3.0 laydown at our track with decent success. Thanks for the help
Last edited by tony montana; 11-01-2016 at 07:46 PM.
11-01-2016, 08:31 PM
#3988
11-01-2016, 09:28 PM
#3990
saying that no one runs rear motor based on your local indoor track, or the big events, doesn't make it true
at my local HT track, the B5R has been dominant when they have minor/major events. prior to the B6D a local AE driver would use the B5R. Phoenix SRS drivers would come down with some of them too, dumping their mid motor cars. there are some posts in various threads, racers still requesting rear motor and talking how rear motor still dominates at their tracks due to conditions that a 4 gear mid won't even over come
if you look at when the AE B6 series released, the dirt version was sold out very first. but in today's news mid laydowns steal the headlines due to carpet and unique dirt tracks that most imo never get to race on
i still own two DE XB2's and now have a B6D. i don't brand bash or want to start a A vs E fight. i have tried everything on my DE on what was a loose/low/med traction outdoor dirt track, 3 and 4 gear, springs from 4 manf's. did a lot of what Socket came up with at our track. my basic stock B6D was dialed per instructions.
i still hope xray goes thru with rear motor option, so i can try my DE's in the config i was hoping to use when i bought them
at my local HT track, the B5R has been dominant when they have minor/major events. prior to the B6D a local AE driver would use the B5R. Phoenix SRS drivers would come down with some of them too, dumping their mid motor cars. there are some posts in various threads, racers still requesting rear motor and talking how rear motor still dominates at their tracks due to conditions that a 4 gear mid won't even over come
if you look at when the AE B6 series released, the dirt version was sold out very first. but in today's news mid laydowns steal the headlines due to carpet and unique dirt tracks that most imo never get to race on
i still own two DE XB2's and now have a B6D. i don't brand bash or want to start a A vs E fight. i have tried everything on my DE on what was a loose/low/med traction outdoor dirt track, 3 and 4 gear, springs from 4 manf's. did a lot of what Socket came up with at our track. my basic stock B6D was dialed per instructions.
i still hope xray goes thru with rear motor option, so i can try my DE's in the config i was hoping to use when i bought them