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Instruction manuals: (C/O BentKa)

Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

edit by dgrobe2112
here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe) or add 1.5mm carbon avid spacers



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

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Old 03-19-2017, 09:58 PM
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hopefully the XB2 is next on exotek's list, i have this on my B6 B6 FLITE TOP SHAFT, for flite spur mount #1726 - Exotek Racing

something like this would allow shocks on a XB2 DE to moved forward option for spec racing. of course it would be nice on CE too
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That would be could, no need for a shaft sticking out to the body if your not using the slipper.
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Anyone else have their front inner hinge pins pass right past the screw? Fantastic build but I found this a bit odd.
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Originally Posted by Tony Vega
Anyone else have their front inner hinge pins pass right past the screw? Fantastic build but I found this a bit odd.
i think alot of people have had this on all of the hinge pins. ive seen some use washers or e-clips behind the screws to cover the pins. im worried about this on my xt2. i havent ran into anyone that had this problem with the truck yet but the screw heads just barely cover the pins.

which washers are everyone using to fix this problem?
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Originally Posted by LOW ET
i think alot of people have had this on all of the hinge pins. ive seen some use washers or e-clips behind the screws to cover the pins. im worried about this on my xt2. i havent ran into anyone that had this problem with the truck yet but the screw heads just barely cover the pins.

which washers are everyone using to fix this problem?
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-2....a961025/p26549
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Originally Posted by slakr
thanks

are you using longer screws with these or will the stock screws be long enough?
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Stock screws work fine.
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Originally Posted by fast-ho-cars
wow, that must have been a serious hit. hard or med plastic parts?

in my various offroad crashes (very bad) with a XB2 DE near 1 year old, has been run weekly, and have broke nothing to date on it. i converted that same XB2 (one of three Xray cars i own) to race dirt oval latemodel class, it continues to go thru some serious crashes with no breaks that intended for oval only cars would not survive.
Hard parts.

There was a small PVC pipe sitting on the outside line of the sweeper but on the inside of the track, came through the sweeper a full speed and hit it dead center on the front of my buggy. Just a real solid "thud" when it hit, I knew something had to be broken but it still drove so I finished the final lap. I did however finish and win that heat.

Only other thing I broke on this car in the year+ that I've owned it is a rear arm.
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for the hinge pin issue...these have slightly bigger heads than the ones xray supplies https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...h-3100/p141759

perhaps the washers or updated screws with make it to 2018 XB2
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Originally Posted by jk6672
Why? It how can it extend any further than the shaft?
Like so..
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Originally Posted by fast-ho-cars
for the hinge pin issue...these have slightly bigger heads than the ones xray supplies https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...h-3100/p141759

perhaps the washers or updated screws with make it to 2018 XB2
I have two I needed to use washers, they are a little big though because that's what I had at the time. I'd rather have just the screw with bigger head. Have you in fact used these where the stock bones where too small and worked? If so I think I'll order these the next time I place an order.
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i have them screws and they are the same size as my stock xray xt2 screws
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All I have left to do is mount some tires, solder ESC and motor before I get to feel it out, but I'm clueless about one thing because this is the first kit, of the three I have, that didn't include a place to mount the RX antenna. Where and how are you guys mounting or securing your antenna?
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Originally Posted by LOW ET
i have them screws and they are the same size as my stock xray xt2 screws
protek screws were talked about in first months after release. screw head measured with calibers are wider. hinge pins were coming out so some people used washers, made their own lexan retainers, after reading the post about the protek screws, i bought a set, no issues with hinge pins since

now xray may have done a silent change on newer kits? the above poster who was having issues may have a older car/kit? maybe some newer kits have the larger heads than when the XB2 was first released
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Originally Posted by jk6672
All I have left to do is mount some tires, solder ESC and motor before I get to feel it out, but I'm clueless about one thing because this is the first kit, of the three I have, that didn't include a place to mount the RX antenna. Where and how are you guys mounting or securing your antenna?
I had the same question, no one had a good answer. I bought an antenna and receiver mounting kit from HB. The same part out of my D216 buggy fit and is double taped to the battery hold down. I'll eventually stick it to the chassis and put my receiver on it. Don't faint when you look at the price, I almost did..
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