Team Associated B7 and B7D
#1441
Tech Addict
#1442
Tech Master
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If you look at Neil Craggs car from RHR in the pictures looks like he is running a heavier bulkhead (brass by the colour so would be 30g) as well as a steel plate under the servo and an extra 10g lead weight:-
It is also interesting that he has the lower rack spaced by 2mm just like we did with the B6.4 when using a B6.x rack instead of the B6.4 rack for 30 degree caster for these Schumacher Cut Stagger tyres to work properly.
It is also interesting that he has the lower rack spaced by 2mm just like we did with the B6.4 when using a B6.x rack instead of the B6.4 rack for 30 degree caster for these Schumacher Cut Stagger tyres to work properly.
#1443
Tech Adept
I might even write it on the underside of it!
#1444
Tech Adept
Our indoor carpet season is done at my local club, 1066 Racing, Overall I really like the B7, it’s a weapon. Boring debrief for you all:
I haven’t quite got the B7 as dialled as my 6.2 was, but that had the short chassis and all the many carpet specific mods developed over the years of the B6 range.
I’ve only broken one ball cup, and I’ve crashed heavily a fair few times 😂 Seen plenty of people do the idler gears, but nothing else on the car is a major worry to me. Will probably go aftermarket for those next indoor season.
Due to work schedules I’ve only had 3 club meetings and a BRCA regional with the car so I’m not too concerned it’s not bang on yet, haven’t had it long enough.
Last club night I won both legs of the B final, the regional I qualified 15th from 40 then had awful finals, just the way it goes sometimes! A little ahead of where I felt I'd be with the 6.2 in terms of results.
Outdoor season incoming, bought a B74.2CE and I’m excited to build it. Our club has worked super hard this winter and we’ve found the funds to go astroturf instead of grass outdoors, so hopefully no more Thursday night mowing parties 😂
On a side note, saw all the Willspeed parts for the car at the regional, as always really nice stuff, will deffo be getting some. Heard a rumour they’ll be doing idler gears and some other very interesting stuff soon 😉
I haven’t quite got the B7 as dialled as my 6.2 was, but that had the short chassis and all the many carpet specific mods developed over the years of the B6 range.
I’ve only broken one ball cup, and I’ve crashed heavily a fair few times 😂 Seen plenty of people do the idler gears, but nothing else on the car is a major worry to me. Will probably go aftermarket for those next indoor season.
Due to work schedules I’ve only had 3 club meetings and a BRCA regional with the car so I’m not too concerned it’s not bang on yet, haven’t had it long enough.
Last club night I won both legs of the B final, the regional I qualified 15th from 40 then had awful finals, just the way it goes sometimes! A little ahead of where I felt I'd be with the 6.2 in terms of results.
Outdoor season incoming, bought a B74.2CE and I’m excited to build it. Our club has worked super hard this winter and we’ve found the funds to go astroturf instead of grass outdoors, so hopefully no more Thursday night mowing parties 😂
On a side note, saw all the Willspeed parts for the car at the regional, as always really nice stuff, will deffo be getting some. Heard a rumour they’ll be doing idler gears and some other very interesting stuff soon 😉
Last edited by andrewcoley; 04-29-2024 at 12:08 PM.
#1445
Tech Adept
https://site.petitrc.com/setup/assoc...4/RW104607.jpg
#1446
Tech Regular
#1447
Tech Master
I was gonna try tungsten putty as well as the steel. I think that should be around 2-3 gms more in that space. I like the way it drives without any weight though, but I like the car to naturally nose down off throttle on jumps, (could do it with lighter oils or drag brake but hate both ). Could always brake to get it land better but lets see have both on order.
If you look at Neil Craggs car from RHR in the pictures looks like he is running a heavier bulkhead (brass by the colour so would be 30g) as well as a steel plate under the servo and an extra 10g lead weight:-
It is also interesting that he has the lower rack spaced by 2mm just like we did with the B6.4 when using a B6.x rack instead of the B6.4 rack for 30 degree caster for these Schumacher Cut Stagger tyres to work properly.
It is also interesting that he has the lower rack spaced by 2mm just like we did with the B6.4 when using a B6.x rack instead of the B6.4 rack for 30 degree caster for these Schumacher Cut Stagger tyres to work properly.
Steering rack is lower as he is using a low front axle height and a reasonable amount of total castor and it is always preferable to lower the rack than use lots of spacers under the outboard ball stud due to the way the forces transfer through the steering tie rod to the chassis.
As a collective we have been trying to build setups without lots of additional weight in the front of the car to preserve the primary benefit of the B7, the fact that it carries fantastic corner speed.
It does seem like we are having to move towards adding weight around the front though as the Schumacher tyres seem to demand it. Remember what I have always said about not being able to substitute static vertical loading with geometry changes and that setup being all about giving the specific tyre what it needs .... well yeah, sadly we seem to be stuck with the LP cut stagger for a while longer :'(
#1448
Tech Rookie
I've been struggling for acceleration and top speed with my B7, suggestions seem to be that this is the case due to the extra friction with the 5-gear transmission. Running in 17.5T stock with 33/72 gearing. Pulling the pinion tooth count back to 30 didn't seem to make much of a difference in punch, and had the downside of being even slower down the long back straight at my local track. Focussing on corner speed got me down to a 30.3 second lap at my local track, I really need to get into the 29's to be in the game with the fastest guys running 28's as hot laps.
I've pulled my motor timing back from 55 to 42, hoping to gain some torque to overcome the friction and gone back to the 33T pinion and will test again later this week.
Any other suggestions?
I've pulled my motor timing back from 55 to 42, hoping to gain some torque to overcome the friction and gone back to the 33T pinion and will test again later this week.
Any other suggestions?
#1449
I've been struggling for acceleration and top speed with my B7, suggestions seem to be that this is the case due to the extra friction with the 5-gear transmission. Running in 17.5T stock with 33/72 gearing. Pulling the pinion tooth count back to 30 didn't seem to make much of a difference in punch, and had the downside of being even slower down the long back straight at my local track. Focussing on corner speed got me down to a 30.3 second lap at my local track, I really need to get into the 29's to be in the game with the fastest guys running 28's as hot laps.
I've pulled my motor timing back from 55 to 42, hoping to gain some torque to overcome the friction and gone back to the 33T pinion and will test again later this week.
Any other suggestions?
I've pulled my motor timing back from 55 to 42, hoping to gain some torque to overcome the friction and gone back to the 33T pinion and will test again later this week.
Any other suggestions?
Personally I'm going to get some narrowed cut gears (or maybe cut them myself I have a lathe now) and some ceramic bearings for my stock build. Yeah the 5 gear has more drive line drag but its not THAT bad.
#1450
Tech Rookie
Why the huge swings in pinion size? Try a 32t or 31t pinion. Lower timing is what you needed, and maybe lower drive frequency on the esc. Maybe try a trinity thin aluminum pinion or the polypro or similar plastic pinion. Maybe a slipper eliminator.
Personally I'm going to get some narrowed cut gears (or maybe cut them myself I have a lathe now) and some ceramic bearings for my stock build. Yeah the 5 gear has more drive line drag but its not THAT bad.
Personally I'm going to get some narrowed cut gears (or maybe cut them myself I have a lathe now) and some ceramic bearings for my stock build. Yeah the 5 gear has more drive line drag but its not THAT bad.
I've pulled back the drive frequency, hasn't really given me what I needed. Timing seems like the last game in town (before I pull apart the transmission and rebuild), will test this afternoon.
#1451
So I've decided to run this instead of the Mugen. Unfortunately, kits are nowhere to be found especially the dirt version. Any leads in the US? Thanks
#1453
Ironically I bet Hoosier RC hobbyplex in Indiana also has some for sale. They usually have a big stock of everything as its quite a big hobby store and a big track.
#1455
Tech Elite
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