Tamiya TB-Evolution III
#6601
Re: gears
Originally posted by hierog
why not, sparks would look sweet coming from the front of it!! LOL
why not, sparks would look sweet coming from the front of it!! LOL
#6602
Originally posted by BigDogRacing
I was under the impression that the EVO4 ring gear has a different number of teeth?
I was under the impression that the EVO4 ring gear has a different number of teeth?
#6604
Originally posted by f1larry
I beleive the bevel gear has a different amount of teeth than the origanal bevel gear from the EVO III
I beleive the bevel gear has a different amount of teeth than the origanal bevel gear from the EVO III
#6605
After viewing the past two pages in this thread, I did not see anything about running the EVO4 suspension on the EVOIII. Is this possibal/worth it? I know of a few that use the EVO4 suspension on their 415's, but would it help the EVOIII?
Is it just me, or does the EVOIII push? I ran Rod's setup at SoCal, and could not get rid of this little pushing problem with the car. With each adjustment I have made, the car seems to steer a little better, but it's still there.
There IS an "E" block for the car, right?
Is it just me, or does the EVOIII push? I ran Rod's setup at SoCal, and could not get rid of this little pushing problem with the car. With each adjustment I have made, the car seems to steer a little better, but it's still there.
There IS an "E" block for the car, right?
#6606
Originally posted by bubbles
After viewing the past two pages in this thread, I did not see anything about running the EVO4 suspension on the EVOIII. Is this possibal/worth it? I know of a few that use the EVO4 suspension on their 415's, but would it help the EVOIII?
Is it just me, or does the EVOIII push? I ran Rod's setup at SoCal, and could not get rid of this little pushing problem with the car. With each adjustment I have made, the car seems to steer a little better, but it's still there.
There IS an "E" block for the car, right?
After viewing the past two pages in this thread, I did not see anything about running the EVO4 suspension on the EVOIII. Is this possibal/worth it? I know of a few that use the EVO4 suspension on their 415's, but would it help the EVOIII?
Is it just me, or does the EVOIII push? I ran Rod's setup at SoCal, and could not get rid of this little pushing problem with the car. With each adjustment I have made, the car seems to steer a little better, but it's still there.
There IS an "E" block for the car, right?
The new (evo4) suspension kit works for evo3 as well. In fact, if you got the limited production conversion kit it has instruction for both the 415 and the evo3.
Which one of Rod's set up did you run? After having ran the evo3, 415 and the evo4 at SoCal, I would say that the push could be dialed out. Try yellow all around with red sway bars and 30W oil. That's my base setup for SoCal and I don't think the car pushes. The Tamiya cars do drive different from the other cars and suspension changes affect the car differently sometimes. But the cars are certainly fast. In fact, maybe you are pushing because the car allow more speed at the corners?
#6607
Rod's setup was something like...
Springs - yellowF yellowR
Oil - 50wt
Ride Height - 4.5F/R
Droop - 6F 7R
Camber - -2 all around
Toe - 0F +2.5
Swaybar - yellowF yellowR
Mine now is something like...
Springs - Associated RedF Associated RedR
Oil - 50wt
Ride Height - 4.5mmF 5mmR
Droop - 6F 5R
Camber - -1F -2R
Toe - -1F +1.5R
Swaybar - yellowF GoldR(I forgot the size, but it's a little thicker than yellow. Not Tamiya)
I might change EVERYTHING back to his setup, and just start from ZERO again... The car is OK as is, but I just want a LITTLE more steering mid corner, and it will be SET!
Springs - yellowF yellowR
Oil - 50wt
Ride Height - 4.5F/R
Droop - 6F 7R
Camber - -2 all around
Toe - 0F +2.5
Swaybar - yellowF yellowR
Mine now is something like...
Springs - Associated RedF Associated RedR
Oil - 50wt
Ride Height - 4.5mmF 5mmR
Droop - 6F 5R
Camber - -1F -2R
Toe - -1F +1.5R
Swaybar - yellowF GoldR(I forgot the size, but it's a little thicker than yellow. Not Tamiya)
I might change EVERYTHING back to his setup, and just start from ZERO again... The car is OK as is, but I just want a LITTLE more steering mid corner, and it will be SET!
#6608
Well, I tried 40wt oil and like 30wt better for SoCal, since it's quick transition I am looking for. Also the the sway bars and springs might be too stiff. What I've learned was that this car needs to roll more than the others in the corner to turn. You would think a stiffer rear will give you more steering but in fact it takes the steering away since the car does not roll enough to turn in a tight circle. I was struggling with this until Steve Weiss pointed it out to me.
#6609
I'm using the three hole pistons though, which makes the dampening(sp) softer, so you counter with thicker shock oil.
Scuba Steve to the rescue huh...
Shortening the camber links would help the car rotate through the corner as well, right? I'll mess with it some more and see how things turn out.
Later
Scuba Steve to the rescue huh...
Shortening the camber links would help the car rotate through the corner as well, right? I'll mess with it some more and see how things turn out.
Later
#6610
Originally posted by bubbles
I'm using the three hole pistons though, which makes the dampening(sp) softer, so you counter with thicker shock oil.
Scuba Steve to the rescue huh...
Shortening the camber links would help the car rotate through the corner as well, right? I'll mess with it some more and see how things turn out.
Later
I'm using the three hole pistons though, which makes the dampening(sp) softer, so you counter with thicker shock oil.
Scuba Steve to the rescue huh...
Shortening the camber links would help the car rotate through the corner as well, right? I'll mess with it some more and see how things turn out.
Later
The other thing that makes quite a bit of difference is the spacers you use on the wheel hubs. try making front wider or rear narrower.
#6611
Tech Adept
Originally posted by bubbles
After viewing the past two pages in this thread, I did not see anything about running the EVO4 suspension on the EVOIII. Is this possibal/worth it? I know of a few that use the EVO4 suspension on their 415's, but would it help the EVOIII?
After viewing the past two pages in this thread, I did not see anything about running the EVO4 suspension on the EVOIII. Is this possibal/worth it? I know of a few that use the EVO4 suspension on their 415's, but would it help the EVOIII?
#6612
Tech Master
Originally posted by BigDogRacing
I was under the impression that the EVO4 ring gear has a different number of teeth?
I was under the impression that the EVO4 ring gear has a different number of teeth?
i think!
there is no aluminium input gear but if you shim it itl be ok.
#6613
Tech Regular
think the EVO IV ones are 2 teeth larger or so i have been told.
#6615
How about weight of the metal gear?
I was able to reach 1365 grams racing weight at last weeks race. I replaced the steel dogbones with aluminum ones from the TA03 kit. If I install the carbon prop shaft and Ti screws, I can lighten the kit even further. Maybe even lose the one way in favor of a delrin outdrive?
What's the lightest evo3 ever assembled?
I was able to reach 1365 grams racing weight at last weeks race. I replaced the steel dogbones with aluminum ones from the TA03 kit. If I install the carbon prop shaft and Ti screws, I can lighten the kit even further. Maybe even lose the one way in favor of a delrin outdrive?
What's the lightest evo3 ever assembled?