Tamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
#4441
Do other people have issues with the steering alignment going out in even small bumps? Whenever I tag a barrier, I often have to give my trim a couple of clicks to get the car to go straight again. I thought it might have been the servo saver so switched to the square alloy insert, so now its either the servo or radio, or it's the ackerman screws bending slightly
#4442
Tech Adept
Ok I have a few Q for the guys that race the 416, a friend just bought a 416 and drove it for one weekend and broke four chub by just taping the boards and now he have a hard time getting parts in the USA and he want to sell it to me but my Q is where do you get the part for this car and what parts should I keep on hand? is there another chub I could use instead of the one that come with the kit? are the arms the same as the chubs easy to break?
any help will be appreciated.
any help will be appreciated.
#4443
Tech Adept
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I am having the same problem... thought I tweeked the chassis, so undid all the screws on the deck.... but it "wonders"...
is there an upgrade saver from the kit one? I am aware of the hi torque one, but just wondered if there were any others
is there an upgrade saver from the kit one? I am aware of the hi torque one, but just wondered if there were any others
Do other people have issues with the steering alignment going out in even small bumps? Whenever I tag a barrier, I often have to give my trim a couple of clicks to get the car to go straight again. I thought it might have been the servo saver so switched to the square alloy insert, so now its either the servo or radio, or it's the ackerman screws bending slightly
#4444
Ok I have a few Q for the guys that race the 416, a friend just bought a 416 and drove it for one weekend and broke four chub by just taping the boards and now he have a hard time getting parts in the USA and he want to sell it to me but my Q is where do you get the part for this car and what parts should I keep on hand? is there another chub I could use instead of the one that come with the kit? are the arms the same as the chubs easy to break?
any help will be appreciated.
any help will be appreciated.
Can't say i've heard of any problems in particular with the C hubs, so your friend sounds just very unlucky, they may have hit it at a bad angle to put more pressure on it than normal.
#4445
Tech Regular
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Do other people have issues with the steering alignment going out in even small bumps? Whenever I tag a barrier, I often have to give my trim a couple of clicks to get the car to go straight again. I thought it might have been the servo saver so switched to the square alloy insert, so now its either the servo or radio, or it's the ackerman screws bending slightly
#4446
Tech Master
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Ok I have a few Q for the guys that race the 416, a friend just bought a 416 and drove it for one weekend and broke four chub by just taping the boards and now he have a hard time getting parts in the USA and he want to sell it to me but my Q is where do you get the part for this car and what parts should I keep on hand? is there another chub I could use instead of the one that come with the kit? are the arms the same as the chubs easy to break?
any help will be appreciated.
any help will be appreciated.
#4448
The soft IFS c-hubs will never break. They yield a lot more steering, but if you tune around it, they actually work quite well.
Also, a better bumper helps quite a bit. Unfortunately, nobody seems to make one! Grab the Parma blank bumper and have someone cut one out for you.
I too have experienced the "wandering" problem others have mentioned. There does seem to be a decent amount of play in the Tamiya servo saver. It seems like it can be better or worse depending on how closely you line up the ends of the circular springs when pushing them into the saver.
As for parts, don't overlook ampdraw.com. I agree, though, parts for this car in the US is still a challenge. I wish someone like Stormer would pick them up, it is the winningest car in the last year+. I've heard Tamiya does something (not sure what) to make carrying their parts more difficult.
Also, a better bumper helps quite a bit. Unfortunately, nobody seems to make one! Grab the Parma blank bumper and have someone cut one out for you.
I too have experienced the "wandering" problem others have mentioned. There does seem to be a decent amount of play in the Tamiya servo saver. It seems like it can be better or worse depending on how closely you line up the ends of the circular springs when pushing them into the saver.
As for parts, don't overlook ampdraw.com. I agree, though, parts for this car in the US is still a challenge. I wish someone like Stormer would pick them up, it is the winningest car in the last year+. I've heard Tamiya does something (not sure what) to make carrying their parts more difficult.
#4449
Tech Champion
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Im not 100% certain but I think the TC5 might have the body posts at the same location as the Tamiya cars. I believe I used a TC5 bumper on my TA05. It was a tight fit but worked. Worth a shot since parma makes a tc5 bumper. It just won't have the cutout at the front.
I don't remember for sure but I think I remember my LHS owner telling me Tamiya wanted you to carry 2 of all their kits and the associated parts for them or something crazy like that for their best pricing. They also had really high minimum order quantities. It just wasn't cost effective for him to carry their stuff. If Great Planes or Horizon Hobbies would pick them up fully then at least the LHS's could get the stuff that way. It's too bad really b/c Tamiya USA isn't doing anything to help their cars in the US and the LHS's in the US.
I don't remember for sure but I think I remember my LHS owner telling me Tamiya wanted you to carry 2 of all their kits and the associated parts for them or something crazy like that for their best pricing. They also had really high minimum order quantities. It just wasn't cost effective for him to carry their stuff. If Great Planes or Horizon Hobbies would pick them up fully then at least the LHS's could get the stuff that way. It's too bad really b/c Tamiya USA isn't doing anything to help their cars in the US and the LHS's in the US.
#4450
Kimbrough savers are nice, but weak. Turn the car on with radio on so that the wheels are straight ahead. Then grab your wheels/tires by hand and force it to turn left or right. This will show you how weak the servo saver is. Of course that's the purpose of a servo saver, but under a full load going into a turn, you will not be getting the full steering you should because the servo saver is absorbing some of the steering input. Maybe a fresh new servo saver will be strong. So keep checking on that.
Tamiya savers suck because it's hard for them to keep center. I use an aftermarket 2 piece aluminum Tamiya replacement servo saver. It still had slack in it, so I superglued them together with the rings. This takes out the slack, but also lets the saver work in a very limited fashion. But it is still possible to break your servos. I have yet to break my 9551 with this setup.
Tamiya savers suck because it's hard for them to keep center. I use an aftermarket 2 piece aluminum Tamiya replacement servo saver. It still had slack in it, so I superglued them together with the rings. This takes out the slack, but also lets the saver work in a very limited fashion. But it is still possible to break your servos. I have yet to break my 9551 with this setup.
#4451
Do other people have issues with the steering alignment going out in even small bumps? Whenever I tag a barrier, I often have to give my trim a couple of clicks to get the car to go straight again. I thought it might have been the servo saver so switched to the square alloy insert, so now its either the servo or radio, or it's the ackerman screws bending slightly
#4452
Yes, had the same issue. Still had the issue, like you, after switching to the square alloy arm. Upon close inspection I found that even with the square arm there is a little bit of play in the servo saver so decided to try a Kimbrough servo saver from one of the drivers at my club some 7 months ago. Suffice to say he still hasn't gotten it back.
I have seen the tamiya ones inherit a bit of movement, but I guess any can given a chance to.
#4453
Who makes the alu servo savers. Part #.
#4454
Tamiya High-Torque Servo Saver (50473 & 51000)
http://www.rc-square.de/english/index.htm
near the bottom.
http://www.rc-square.de/english/index.htm
near the bottom.
#4455
Didn't Tamiya make 1 to? Who makes the other end in alu (the one on the servo splindle)?