Novak Kinetic
#1891
Tech Addict
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I have one word....TURBO.
I tried the settings above and didn't really go any faster it just created more heat as I guessed it would.
So I went back to 55 timing start RPM 9000 End RPM 18000 and FDR of 7.04 and enabled Boost with a delay of 1200ms. Bingo! The speed down the straight was excellent and the snap on the infield was great plus temps were much better. ESC was 80c and motor was 74c after a 5 minute run.
I reduced the boost delay to 800ms and the speed was even better down the straight with no increase in temps. I felt I could probably gear down to 7.24 and benefit on the infield and get better pace down the straight with the turbo.
So happy with the kinetic now
I tried the settings above and didn't really go any faster it just created more heat as I guessed it would.
So I went back to 55 timing start RPM 9000 End RPM 18000 and FDR of 7.04 and enabled Boost with a delay of 1200ms. Bingo! The speed down the straight was excellent and the snap on the infield was great plus temps were much better. ESC was 80c and motor was 74c after a 5 minute run.
I reduced the boost delay to 800ms and the speed was even better down the straight with no increase in temps. I felt I could probably gear down to 7.24 and benefit on the infield and get better pace down the straight with the turbo.
So happy with the kinetic now
I am also running touring but with a 11.5T built-Ballistic.
I am geared at 7.4 at the moment.
I tried your boost settings but I am not getting any low end acceleration. like you mentioned.
What min drive, drive frequency setting are u using. Top end is good but my car feels sluggish at corner to corner acc.
Need help urgently.
Charlie,
The track i run is technical with a 150ft straights.
Can you advice on what type of setting I should try?
I tried the dvaid852456's setting above and I also tried the pre-set 10.5t 2s settings. Top speed is great but i am slow out of corners. It feels like from initial trigger pull up to max there are no timing boost added. Then at full trigger the max boost just kicks in.
Any anyone else wanna chime in, i'd appreciate ur 2 cents.
Thanks in advance.
#1892
Hey,
I am also running touring but with a 11.5T built-Ballistic.
I am geared at 7.4 at the moment.
I tried your boost settings but I am not getting any low end acceleration. like you mentioned.
What min drive, drive frequency setting are u using. Top end is good but my car feels sluggish at corner to corner acc.
I am also running touring but with a 11.5T built-Ballistic.
I am geared at 7.4 at the moment.
I tried your boost settings but I am not getting any low end acceleration. like you mentioned.
What min drive, drive frequency setting are u using. Top end is good but my car feels sluggish at corner to corner acc.
I'm running
min brake 0
Drag Brake 0
Min Drive 1
Current limit 3
brake Freq 2.25
Brake endpoint 60
Drive Freq 11
The settings I posted were used on quite a technical circuit that suffers from a dusty surface, hence the current limit settings. Acceleration was as good as it could be before I lost traction on corner exit.
My next race is at a much grippier track and so I may need to play with gearing and min dirve if the acceleration seems a bit soft but to be honest just turning off the current limit would probably do.
Due to the extra grip I am imagining a lower gear ratio will be needed, probably down to 7.24 or 7.48.
Have you tried lower gearing than 7.4? If top speed is good I'd gear down for more acceleration on the infield.
#1894
You need to push the reset button on while connected to a novalink to reset all the settings back to factory default. When you adjust the timing ramp settings it locks the rpm range.
#1895
YES!!!!
Nailed it! My first 19 lapper!
The setup was perfect and the Kinetic was MENTAL!
I shattered my PB by over 7 seconds with the following setup:
Timing 45
RPM 9000 - 18000
Boost 900ms
FDR 7.48
The key came from turning off the current limiter and gearing down. The car came alive. It had so much acceleration between corners you could see the front of the car lift and it was a rocket down the straight
After the first run I checked temperatures and was amazed to find both motor and ESC never got hotter than 63c!!!! Incredible. I really thought the new speed would have pushed the electronics to the limit but it seems the Kinetic just loved it!
NOVAK YOU ROCK!!!!!!!
The setup was perfect and the Kinetic was MENTAL!
I shattered my PB by over 7 seconds with the following setup:
Timing 45
RPM 9000 - 18000
Boost 900ms
FDR 7.48
The key came from turning off the current limiter and gearing down. The car came alive. It had so much acceleration between corners you could see the front of the car lift and it was a rocket down the straight
After the first run I checked temperatures and was amazed to find both motor and ESC never got hotter than 63c!!!! Incredible. I really thought the new speed would have pushed the electronics to the limit but it seems the Kinetic just loved it!
NOVAK YOU ROCK!!!!!!!
Last edited by dvaid852456; 08-29-2011 at 08:24 AM.
#1896
Tech Master
Nailed it! My first 19 lapper!
The setup was perfect and the Kinetic was MENTAL!
I shattered my PB by over 7 seconds with the following setup:
Timing 45
RPM 9000 - 18000
Boost 900ms
FDR 7.48
They key came from turning off the current limiter and gearing down. The car came alive. It had so much acceleration between corners you could see the front of the car lift and it was a rocket down the straight
After the first run I checked temperatures and was amazed to find both motor and ESC never got hotter than 63c!!!! Incredible. I really thought the new speed would have pushed the electronics to the limit but it seems the Kinetic just loved it!
NOVAK YOU ROCK!!!!!!!
The setup was perfect and the Kinetic was MENTAL!
I shattered my PB by over 7 seconds with the following setup:
Timing 45
RPM 9000 - 18000
Boost 900ms
FDR 7.48
They key came from turning off the current limiter and gearing down. The car came alive. It had so much acceleration between corners you could see the front of the car lift and it was a rocket down the straight
After the first run I checked temperatures and was amazed to find both motor and ESC never got hotter than 63c!!!! Incredible. I really thought the new speed would have pushed the electronics to the limit but it seems the Kinetic just loved it!
NOVAK YOU ROCK!!!!!!!
Snowy.
#1897
Does anyone have much expirience with the current limiter on the kinetic? Have you notice how low you are able to set it without feeling significant power loss? I have it currently set at 8. I plan on expiriment going lower during practice tomorrow.
#1898
#1899
After this weekend though I think the RPM point could do with being much lower or more experimenting at least. By disabling it the performance gain was massive and temps came right down too. I do wonder if the ESC is actually getting hotter when the current limiter is activated as I saw about a 20c drop when I disabled it.
Last edited by dvaid852456; 08-30-2011 at 06:17 AM.
#1900
I am having a little problem understanding why the kinetic can't add a small amount of timing (like 5° to 10°) to a 3.5t motor above 55000rpm to 70000rpm ??? It seems to me if you want to go real fast in mod, why the 6.5t limit when using dynamic timing ???
#1901
Also my five year old gtb 3.5t is just as fast as those 6.5t with dynamic timing, but with less heat !!!! Why not come with a software/esc that allows some top end timing on a 2.5t/3.5t motor ???
#1902
A few top speed racers had the Novak 3.5t running at 6S , and the novak ballitic timing can be cranked up to 45° . Right now I am running 2S , my 3.5t at N timing, and I feel that if the kinetic esc software could raise the timing from N to 35°+(45000rpm-50000rpm), then it would be the fastest mod setup yet !!!!!
#1903
I just spoke to the novak folks, and just as I thought , I can program 5° to 15° of timing advance from 45000rpm to 50000rpm in my kinetic running a 3.5t.......
#1905