Originally Posted by TomB

i don't mean to be mister pragmatic, but i don't see this car going beyond a "wow that looks cute" type factor. it'll go downt he same road as the xray 18th scales, losi mini t's and kyosho mini buggies. looks like a waste of time, honestly

not to mention all those cables going through and inbetween the side belt geting cut up the first time you run the bloody thing!

Originally Posted by performula

There seems to be two versions, one with blue aluminum bits and the other black plastic (maybe just first prototype).

Originally Posted by Tim Johnson

1. Would you rather clean the oil off that chassis and rear tire?
2. Electric guys pass wires through belts. You will be ok if you do it correctly. This is a hobby put your receiver where ever you choose...LOL
3. This is a hobby, do what you wish with how you would want to mount your antenna. If you use a spectrum you will not need much of an antenna tube.

Originally Posted by tomkelley

1.I actually meant a side exhaust engine. The manifold pipe would still be able to go out the back that way. Just wondering about it, not a deal breaker for me.
2. you're right, silly me
3. Actually, i'm talking about the antenna's for 1/12th in electric serve the purpose of righting itself if it happens to get turned over. Turn marshalls will love em. Thats fine, I'll just mount my own. Its a hobby of course!

Originally Posted by Tim Johnson

This body should be a direct fit to the EP fantom. My understanding is that this body is a third version.

Originally Posted by RayJ

I remember 15 years ago when 10th scale pan car was about the only thing that was run in the electric RC world. Instead of building a 12thscale four wheel drive why not just build a tenth scale pan car two-wheel drive. My fingers and eyes already have enough trouble seeing what I'm doing with 10th scales four wheel drive. People may complain at first about handling but heck the playing field would be evened, and I'm sure they would handle once time is spent with them. In our hobby, with the price of parts and motors wouldn't it make more sense to make these cars easier to work on and have fewer parts? Many of the newbies are finding it harder to be competitive with the rocket ship four wheel drives we have now. I don't know..... but all I can see at the local level is attendance dropping because of the cost involved to be competitive. I find it sad that our fun hobby is losing ground, and that more people can't afford where the price of racing has gone. Slower cornering speeds, fewer parts and simpler suspensions would go a long way for getting more newbies involved. Just some thoughts.....but that car does look pretty cool.

Originally Posted by YR4Dude

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There will be TWO in my shopping basket. One to run and one to part out for my EP Fantom. I might even be able to convert the EP from chain drive to belt drive. That is unless Kyosho plans on releasing an EP version.

Originally Posted by Tim Johnson

You don't get one untill you purcahse a RB-5.

Originally Posted by YR4Dude

So is this your "marketing plan" for the RB-5?

Originally Posted by performula

The Mini-T and Mini8s are a success.

This Spada 09, or whatever, looks to be an cheaper alternative to 1/8. At least looks wise. That and the fact suspension maintenance/setup looks like it will be simple. Anything with less set-up and more running wins my heart.

What's another class anyway? More choice.

Originally Posted by TomB

yeah you are right! i looked at the spada purely on a racers perspective. i have no interest for these sort of cars, yet i didn't think about the bashers market. hmm so yeah, maybe kyosho has a money spinner.

personally though, i still think, for me, a racer who enjoys the serious club racing, it's a waste of time

Originally Posted by Tim Johnson

Everyone make sure TomB never owns a pan car. Help TomB from looking like a hypocrite

Just imagine a bunch of these running at the winter nats....lol