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MTC1 Manual on the Mugen Web Site. Correction for the manual   The max/min tooth count of the spur and pinion combined. 64p = 127 to 164 total teeth  48p = 95 to 120 total teeth  People who have spare spur gears left over from other cars which they wish to use but can only utilize 2 of the 4 mounting holes, here's neat trick from MKAH to drill 2 more holes precisely in the spur gear: 1.Dismantle the Spur Holder and mount XRAY Spur with two screws.  2.If you have take a 3mm Top Setting Screw  3.Get the Top Screw in the first free thread to the Spur Holder from the other side until it touches the Spur a litle bit. Make the same with the second free Thread.  4.Dismantle Top set Srew an the two screws witch holds the Spur on the Holder. Now you see two marks absolutely central.  5. Take an 3mm Driller an Drill the holes at the marked places  6.Mount the Spur with the two old and two new holes on the Spur.  Spur Gears known to fit the gear holder with the correct hole pattern 1. Axon 2. Panaracer Upper front arm hinge pin set screw tip (or any of the kit set screws): When installing the set screw run the set screw in until you can see it come into the hinge pin gap. Back the screw out and make sure there is no flashing in the way and then the screw. Now slide the pin in and you should hit the pin and come to a dead stop. It will be a solid feel and not sloppy like it will not tighten which is caused by any loose plastic. Hara's Setup  Robert Pietsch's Latest Carpet Setup 
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08-03-2017, 08:19 AM
#421
08-03-2017, 08:27 AM
#423
A few things in my mind since reading the Manual and part list.
Is it possible to run the steering servo a little bit more outside (extra holes in chassis?)? If yes, a longer turnbuckle is necessary?
without "trimming" the servo case?
Is it possible to use blades with the optional steel spool outdrives or just
with the optional auliminium spool outdrives?
Regards, Gero
Is it possible to run the steering servo a little bit more outside (extra holes in chassis?)? If yes, a longer turnbuckle is necessary?
without "trimming" the servo case?
Is it possible to use blades with the optional steel spool outdrives or just
with the optional auliminium spool outdrives?
Regards, Gero
08-03-2017, 08:48 AM
#424
[QUOTE=30Tooth;14992435]Interested in your numbers and how you calculated them. I did calculate my car's CG and to have a 4.13mm lower CG I would have to make very big changes.
The numbers I've shown were for a World GT pan car where the body weight made up a much higher percentage of the total... obviously the lighter the car the easier it is alter the CG. I started with this Technical Articles to find the true CG of the car fully ready to race - includes everything such as heavy wires, paint, stickers, wing etc.
Then you figure out the CG of the desired individual component and how much it contributes to the location of the overall CG. Do a bunch of math to find the effect of changes or just remeasure and get the new overall CG. You could use CAD of course but it's a lot of work to get EVERYTHING in the model - such as wires which can't be ignored.
The numbers I've shown were for a World GT pan car where the body weight made up a much higher percentage of the total... obviously the lighter the car the easier it is alter the CG. I started with this Technical Articles to find the true CG of the car fully ready to race - includes everything such as heavy wires, paint, stickers, wing etc.
Then you figure out the CG of the desired individual component and how much it contributes to the location of the overall CG. Do a bunch of math to find the effect of changes or just remeasure and get the new overall CG. You could use CAD of course but it's a lot of work to get EVERYTHING in the model - such as wires which can't be ignored.
08-03-2017, 10:35 AM
#425
The numbers I've shown were for a World GT pan car where the body weight made up a much higher percentage of the total... obviously the lighter the car the easier it is alter the CG. I started with this Technical Articles to find the true CG of the car fully ready to race - includes everything such as heavy wires, paint, stickers, wing etc.
Then you figure out the CG of the desired individual component and how much it contributes to the location of the overall CG. Do a bunch of math to find the effect of changes or just remeasure and get the new overall CG. You could use CAD of course but it's a lot of work to get EVERYTHING in the model - such as wires which can't be ignored.
Then you figure out the CG of the desired individual component and how much it contributes to the location of the overall CG. Do a bunch of math to find the effect of changes or just remeasure and get the new overall CG. You could use CAD of course but it's a lot of work to get EVERYTHING in the model - such as wires which can't be ignored.
In this regard the servo can be mounted 5mm outwards to balance a heavy pack if there is a need so another plus to this car. Prices on the mugen site are in line with normal Xray parts, wishful thinking the street prices will be a tad lower.
08-03-2017, 11:06 AM
#426
08-03-2017, 12:09 PM
#427
It looks like considerable design effort went into getting the servo as close to the belt as possible - it's so close you have to trim off the lower mounting ear but I'm still confused by those extra mounting holes in the chassis - they don't have the associated locating "pin" holes?
08-03-2017, 12:17 PM
#428
08-03-2017, 12:55 PM
#429
It looks like considerable design effort went into getting the servo as close to the belt as possible - it's so close you have to trim off the lower mounting ear but I'm still confused by those extra mounting holes in the chassis - they don't have the associated locating "pin" holes?
Probably because at the time the local track rules for the class I was running required us to use HPI bodies - what would be classified as USGT bodies today but on a pan car. Not the sleek Protoform bodies designed for foam WGT. They were so tall and heavy that if you didn't trim like 2cm above the cut line you traction rolled or the car handled really really bad. It was a wonderful learning experience
08-03-2017, 12:56 PM
#430
Tech Regular
If you stock racers are worried about balance between battery weight and power, just get a thunder power lipo. Starts with more power and ends with more power regardless of mah. Highest quality lipos, but you are paying for it.
@marcus j btw I have no complaints about being suspended, but you don't have to declare it to everyone. Thanks to you disgusting others with your behavior, this thread was dead for some time. You could learn something from wildthing, another moderator, who gives warnings first before suspending and more importantly does so through pm. Not waving his control for others to see.
@marcus j btw I have no complaints about being suspended, but you don't have to declare it to everyone. Thanks to you disgusting others with your behavior, this thread was dead for some time. You could learn something from wildthing, another moderator, who gives warnings first before suspending and more importantly does so through pm. Not waving his control for others to see.
08-03-2017, 01:02 PM
#431
If you stock racers are worried about balance between battery weight and power, just get a thunder power lipo. Starts with more power and ends with more power regardless of mah. Highest quality lipos, but you are paying for it.
@marcus j btw I have no complaints about being suspended, but you don't have to declare it to everyone. Thanks to you disgusting others with your behavior, this thread was dead for some time. You could learn something from wildthing, another moderator, who gives warnings first before suspending and more importantly does so through pm. Not waving his control for others to see.
@marcus j btw I have no complaints about being suspended, but you don't have to declare it to everyone. Thanks to you disgusting others with your behavior, this thread was dead for some time. You could learn something from wildthing, another moderator, who gives warnings first before suspending and more importantly does so through pm. Not waving his control for others to see.
i dont give warnings, if i suspended you for less than 1 year that's your warning, and you made a second account while suspended now lets enjoy the thread
08-03-2017, 01:22 PM
#432
Regarding servo mounting - well the extra locating pin holes are there but not in line with other screw holes. Must be an optional part?
08-03-2017, 01:26 PM
#434
If you stock racers are worried about balance between battery weight and power, just get a thunder power lipo. Starts with more power and ends with more power regardless of mah. Highest quality lipos, but you are paying for it.
@marcus j btw I have no complaints about being suspended, but you don't have to declare it to everyone. Thanks to you disgusting others with your behavior, this thread was dead for some time. You could learn something from wildthing, another moderator, who gives warnings first before suspending and more importantly does so through pm. Not waving his control for others to see.
@marcus j btw I have no complaints about being suspended, but you don't have to declare it to everyone. Thanks to you disgusting others with your behavior, this thread was dead for some time. You could learn something from wildthing, another moderator, who gives warnings first before suspending and more importantly does so through pm. Not waving his control for others to see.