IB3800 vs. IP3800
10-07-2005, 01:31 PM
#1
IB3800 vs. IP3800
Intellect Battery 3800 vs. Infinite Power 3800
heard about the IP's a while back, recently talked to a matcher who has them in the testing phase and while surfing thru online RC site found Speedtech RC was selling Pole Position matched IP3800's. most/near all were sold out.
what's the verdict:
Voltage
Runtime
IR/AR
etc.
heard about the IP's a while back, recently talked to a matcher who has them in the testing phase and while surfing thru online RC site found Speedtech RC was selling Pole Position matched IP3800's. most/near all were sold out.
what's the verdict:
Voltage
Runtime
IR/AR
etc.
10-07-2005, 01:33 PM
#2
Tech Fanatic
Uh oh. Another battery thread soon to get nasty.
10-07-2005, 01:56 PM
#4
Originally Posted by Jack Rimer
Uh oh. Another battery thread soon to get nasty.
the difference is..... from what i've been told, these "are" from different manufacturers
this thread hopefully won't be like what just happened in a thread about tires
where the issue was (Epic3800/IB3800) whether they are the same/different due to shrink wrap or how they are matched makes them different. 
10-07-2005, 02:05 PM
#5
Actually the IP3800 cell is from a manufacturer called Grepow. The cell is there 3600UP cell in 3800 shrink. We have tested this cell and it's not a bad cell but with the current IB3800s being higher in capacity and voltage we feel this cell won't be to popular. This cell is .7mm or so above the current ROAR specs for sub-c cells so unless they shorten the cell it wouldn't be ROAR legal.
10-07-2005, 03:24 PM
#6
oops
10-07-2005, 05:13 PM
#7
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
Urban legend has it that this is the same cell. Been meaning to order some to play with.......
http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/cel...nvid=ELITE3600
This data make 'em look pretty darn good.
http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/cel...nvid=ELITE3600
This data make 'em look pretty darn good.
10-07-2005, 06:15 PM
#8
I have ALL my IB3800 cells matched by SMC.....I tested a few cells I got on my own turbo matchers.....everything was within .001 of a volt and within 5 seconds in runtime....after running 16 cells through, I didn't see the point in running anymore through....
Let's use our brain here....
SMC has won a LOT of races.....
What has cheapbattery packs won? umm....nothing.....
I'll believe Danny ANY day over some guys who don't back up their tests with results on the track.....
As for numbers, if they have not seen a IB3800 cell over 1.19....well, whatever....I have 1.195 cells at 35 amps....
The IP3800 may have potential, but until it meets ROAR specs, not much to worry about......they are not even IFMAR approved.
Later EddieO
Let's use our brain here....
SMC has won a LOT of races.....
What has cheapbattery packs won? umm....nothing.....
I'll believe Danny ANY day over some guys who don't back up their tests with results on the track.....
As for numbers, if they have not seen a IB3800 cell over 1.19....well, whatever....I have 1.195 cells at 35 amps....
The IP3800 may have potential, but until it meets ROAR specs, not much to worry about......they are not even IFMAR approved.
Later EddieO
10-07-2005, 07:21 PM
#9
Woowww, another match. Look like IB3800 is challenging the new contestant, after a long battle with GP3700 at another thread (which hasn't finished yet).
Let's take this matter simple. Which brand and matcher do you trust with. Then by some packs from them. Others will buy different one. And this will keep the RC alive (competition is what all about). At least, glad to see there are more than one of batt brands in the market right now.
Let's take this matter simple. Which brand and matcher do you trust with. Then by some packs from them. Others will buy different one. And this will keep the RC alive (competition is what all about). At least, glad to see there are more than one of batt brands in the market right now.
10-07-2005, 08:03 PM
#10
Tech Regular
iTrader: (3)
Yeeeeeeeikes. I wasn't saying they were better than yours, SMC, or anybody elses stuff. Just that they exist, and there was a posted graph comparing various cells, and that the IP's looked good on the graph. Just throwing around info. No claims like "these are the best ever" or anything.
I've bought from cheapbatterypacks.com before, and probably will again. Been 100% satisfied with the cells.
And the statement "everything was within .001 of a volt and within 5 seconds in runtime....after running 16 cells through, I didn't see the point in running anymore through...." makes me wonder why buy matched packs if they are that good prior to matching. Or was that after SMC got through with them? Sorry if I misunderstood.
I'd hate to be a matcher right now. Nobody wants GP3300's, probably can't give them away. Gotta dump the GP3700's and IB3600's cheap, and everybody wants the latest production run IB3800's. And now another cell is here is here that may be competitive, who knows.
I'm lovin' it. Got some really cheap GP3700's coming from a big name matcher.........
I've bought from cheapbatterypacks.com before, and probably will again. Been 100% satisfied with the cells.
And the statement "everything was within .001 of a volt and within 5 seconds in runtime....after running 16 cells through, I didn't see the point in running anymore through...." makes me wonder why buy matched packs if they are that good prior to matching. Or was that after SMC got through with them? Sorry if I misunderstood.
I'd hate to be a matcher right now. Nobody wants GP3300's, probably can't give them away. Gotta dump the GP3700's and IB3600's cheap, and everybody wants the latest production run IB3800's. And now another cell is here is here that may be competitive, who knows.
I'm lovin' it. Got some really cheap GP3700's coming from a big name matcher.........
10-07-2005, 08:16 PM
#11
SMC matches cells for my company OEM....they come with my labels on them.
16 of 1000 cells......I did it more just to see if my turbomatchers would were reading similar.
The GP3700 is still a VERY competive battery pack.....many racers used them at the vegas race with excellant results....including some class wins.
What I was saying, was the graph doesn't represent an accurate picture of the IB3800 cells......
And its a company responsibilty to keep updated information on their website, not leave misleading information on their site which can lead to customers to make uninformed purchases....a very LAME LAME way to due business.
Later EddieO
16 of 1000 cells......I did it more just to see if my turbomatchers would were reading similar.
The GP3700 is still a VERY competive battery pack.....many racers used them at the vegas race with excellant results....including some class wins.
What I was saying, was the graph doesn't represent an accurate picture of the IB3800 cells......
And its a company responsibilty to keep updated information on their website, not leave misleading information on their site which can lead to customers to make uninformed purchases....a very LAME LAME way to due business.
Later EddieO
10-08-2005, 12:43 AM
#12
Graphs and test results can be misleading because it all depends on what particular cells you take. Lets say I want to promote IB's and I use the best IB voltage cell and graph it against a GP cell which I take one of the lower voltage cells. This test will be misleading. I'm not saying that these companies are doing this but it could be a posibility. I have gotten samples directly from GP when the 3300's were the hot cell and when I tested them every cell was real high in voltage. When we got our production cells they were not as high.
10-08-2005, 01:29 PM
#13
Originally Posted by Danny/SMC
Actually the IP3800 cell is from a manufacturer called Grepow. The cell is there 3600UP cell in 3800 shrink. We have tested this cell and it's not a bad cell but with the current IB3800s being higher in capacity and voltage we feel this cell won't be to popular. This cell is .7mm or so above the current ROAR specs for sub-c cells so unless they shorten the cell it wouldn't be ROAR legal.
what happens when they make the can smaller, and find 200mah? GAME OVER
10-08-2005, 04:07 PM
#14
It's up to them to do the proper changes and we will see what they come up with but for now they haven't done it. We deal directly with IB and we have seen that there is allot involved in making a high end cell for the RC market. IB has been tweaking there cells as they learn what RC racers need out of a cell. So far the tweaks have been very positive.
10-08-2005, 04:36 PM
#15
without a doubt IB is committed to making their cell better. we're already seeing changes from batch to batch. good or bad for the racer? verdict is still out on that one.
from what i have been told IP is putting alot of time into their product as well. they are saying they are dedicated to the r/c market.its unfortunate that they do not comform to roar rules at this point.
from what i have been told IP is putting alot of time into their product as well. they are saying they are dedicated to the r/c market.its unfortunate that they do not comform to roar rules at this point.