R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-07-2005, 02:31 PM   #1
Tech Master
 
fast-ho-cars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: it's a dry heat
Posts: 1,059
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default IB3800 vs. IP3800

Intellect Battery 3800 vs. Infinite Power 3800

heard about the IP's a while back, recently talked to a matcher who has them in the testing phase and while surfing thru online RC site found Speedtech RC was selling Pole Position matched IP3800's. most/near all were sold out.



what's the verdict:

Voltage
Runtime
IR/AR
etc.
fast-ho-cars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 02:33 PM   #2
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 793
Default

Uh oh. Another battery thread soon to get nasty.
Jack Rimer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 02:42 PM   #3
Tech Elite
 
DavidAlford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,151
Trader Rating: 31 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to DavidAlford
Default

Strap in kids....
__________________
Hot Bodies/HPI | Jconcepts | Viper RC | Xpert | Sippel Speed Shop | Lawton RC Raceway | SXT
DavidAlford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 02:56 PM   #4
Tech Master
 
fast-ho-cars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: it's a dry heat
Posts: 1,059
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Rimer
Uh oh. Another battery thread soon to get nasty.

the difference is..... from what i've been told, these "are" from different manufacturers

this thread hopefully won't be like what just happened in a thread about tires where the issue was (Epic3800/IB3800) whether they are the same/different due to shrink wrap or how they are matched makes them different.
fast-ho-cars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 03:05 PM   #5
Company Representative
 
Danny/SMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Elkton, VA
Posts: 3,097
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Actually the IP3800 cell is from a manufacturer called Grepow. The cell is there 3600UP cell in 3800 shrink. We have tested this cell and it's not a bad cell but with the current IB3800s being higher in capacity and voltage we feel this cell won't be to popular. This cell is .7mm or so above the current ROAR specs for sub-c cells so unless they shorten the cell it wouldn't be ROAR legal.
Danny/SMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 04:24 PM   #6
Tech Adept
 
Stew Noble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Team Ian
Posts: 210
Default

oops
Stew Noble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 06:13 PM   #7
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 403
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Urban legend has it that this is the same cell. Been meaning to order some to play with.......

http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/cel...nvid=ELITE3600

This data make 'em look pretty darn good.

Manning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 07:15 PM   #8
Tech Elite
 
EddieO's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,414
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

I have ALL my IB3800 cells matched by SMC.....I tested a few cells I got on my own turbo matchers.....everything was within .001 of a volt and within 5 seconds in runtime....after running 16 cells through, I didn't see the point in running anymore through....

Let's use our brain here....

SMC has won a LOT of races.....

What has cheapbattery packs won? umm....nothing.....

I'll believe Danny ANY day over some guys who don't back up their tests with results on the track.....

As for numbers, if they have not seen a IB3800 cell over 1.19....well, whatever....I have 1.195 cells at 35 amps....

The IP3800 may have potential, but until it meets ROAR specs, not much to worry about......they are not even IFMAR approved.

Later EddieO
__________________
www.teambrood.com
EddieO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 08:21 PM   #9
Tech Elite
 
Piyo Piyo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Jakarta - INDONESIA
Posts: 3,051
Default

Woowww, another match. Look like IB3800 is challenging the new contestant, after a long battle with GP3700 at another thread (which hasn't finished yet).
Let's take this matter simple. Which brand and matcher do you trust with. Then by some packs from them. Others will buy different one. And this will keep the RC alive (competition is what all about). At least, glad to see there are more than one of batt brands in the market right now.
__________________
VIOLA ARIELLE & FLOREN ISABELLE
Piyo Piyo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 09:03 PM   #10
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 403
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Yeeeeeeeikes. I wasn't saying they were better than yours, SMC, or anybody elses stuff. Just that they exist, and there was a posted graph comparing various cells, and that the IP's looked good on the graph. Just throwing around info. No claims like "these are the best ever" or anything.

I've bought from cheapbatterypacks.com before, and probably will again. Been 100% satisfied with the cells.

And the statement "everything was within .001 of a volt and within 5 seconds in runtime....after running 16 cells through, I didn't see the point in running anymore through...." makes me wonder why buy matched packs if they are that good prior to matching. Or was that after SMC got through with them? Sorry if I misunderstood.

I'd hate to be a matcher right now. Nobody wants GP3300's, probably can't give them away. Gotta dump the GP3700's and IB3600's cheap, and everybody wants the latest production run IB3800's. And now another cell is here is here that may be competitive, who knows.

I'm lovin' it. Got some really cheap GP3700's coming from a big name matcher.........
Manning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 09:16 PM   #11
Tech Elite
 
EddieO's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,414
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

SMC matches cells for my company OEM....they come with my labels on them.

16 of 1000 cells......I did it more just to see if my turbomatchers would were reading similar.

The GP3700 is still a VERY competive battery pack.....many racers used them at the vegas race with excellant results....including some class wins.

What I was saying, was the graph doesn't represent an accurate picture of the IB3800 cells......

And its a company responsibilty to keep updated information on their website, not leave misleading information on their site which can lead to customers to make uninformed purchases....a very LAME LAME way to due business.

Later EddieO
__________________
www.teambrood.com
EddieO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2005, 01:43 AM   #12
Company Representative
 
Danny/SMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Elkton, VA
Posts: 3,097
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Graphs and test results can be misleading because it all depends on what particular cells you take. Lets say I want to promote IB's and I use the best IB voltage cell and graph it against a GP cell which I take one of the lower voltage cells. This test will be misleading. I'm not saying that these companies are doing this but it could be a posibility. I have gotten samples directly from GP when the 3300's were the hot cell and when I tested them every cell was real high in voltage. When we got our production cells they were not as high.
Danny/SMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2005, 02:29 PM   #13
Tech Regular
 
Ntensweapon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Iowa
Posts: 270
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny/SMC
Actually the IP3800 cell is from a manufacturer called Grepow. The cell is there 3600UP cell in 3800 shrink. We have tested this cell and it's not a bad cell but with the current IB3800s being higher in capacity and voltage we feel this cell won't be to popular. This cell is .7mm or so above the current ROAR specs for sub-c cells so unless they shorten the cell it wouldn't be ROAR legal.

what happens when they make the can smaller, and find 200mah? GAME OVER
Ntensweapon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2005, 05:07 PM   #14
Company Representative
 
Danny/SMC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Elkton, VA
Posts: 3,097
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

It's up to them to do the proper changes and we will see what they come up with but for now they haven't done it. We deal directly with IB and we have seen that there is allot involved in making a high end cell for the RC market. IB has been tweaking there cells as they learn what RC racers need out of a cell. So far the tweaks have been very positive.
Danny/SMC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2005, 05:36 PM   #15
Tech Regular
 
Ntensweapon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Iowa
Posts: 270
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

without a doubt IB is committed to making their cell better. we're already seeing changes from batch to batch. good or bad for the racer? verdict is still out on that one.

from what i have been told IP is putting alot of time into their product as well. they are saying they are dedicated to the r/c market.its unfortunate that they do not comform to roar rules at this point.
Ntensweapon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Intellect IP3800 miah 25c ?? Ciny Electric On-Road 7 09-01-2008 02:11 AM
xxxs g+, IP3800,gp3700, picco.21,T-35BL schmelme R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 30 07-16-2006 07:54 PM
IP3800 Awesome numbers BritRacer R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 03-23-2006 09:27 AM
Used Team Batteries IP3800 and IB3800's. EAMotorsports R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 3 03-12-2006 09:23 PM
x4 6 cell packs IP3800 Pole Position Canuck R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 02-27-2006 08:17 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 12:41 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net