3LikesTamiya TRF415
02-25-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by Ballsie
I'm having problems with the Low Friction White belts - I keep loosing teeth from them. I must have used 9 or so in a year. I've tried running them loose, normal and tight with no difference. I only run 19t on carpet, but I have a very harsh throttle style.
Has anyone found a decent alternative to the Tamiya item?
Cheers.
Has anyone found a decent alternative to the Tamiya item?
Cheers.
02-25-2006, 05:14 PM
Tech Master
Originally Posted by Ballsie
I'm having problems with the Low Friction White belts - I keep loosing teeth from them. I must have used 9 or so in a year. I've tried running them loose, normal and tight with no difference. I only run 19t on carpet, but I have a very harsh throttle style.
Has anyone found a decent alternative to the Tamiya item?
Cheers.
Has anyone found a decent alternative to the Tamiya item?
Cheers.
Check a few post ago...THere was also a discussion of aftermarket belts.
02-25-2006, 05:14 PM
anyone no a answer to my question?
02-25-2006, 11:48 PM
Tech Master
hi,
can anyne tell me were i can get the msx rear diff i need all parts except the diff balls, pulleys.
thanks.
also what effect is people seeing while widening the car or narrowing it by using wheel spacers.iam seeing mopre grip with more spacers or wider it is.but less intial turn in.
can anyne tell me were i can get the msx rear diff i need all parts except the diff balls, pulleys.
thanks.
also what effect is people seeing while widening the car or narrowing it by using wheel spacers.iam seeing mopre grip with more spacers or wider it is.but less intial turn in.
02-25-2006, 11:53 PM
Tech Master
Originally Posted by TRF415boy
The black belts hold on much better, but what Rick suggests is also valid, although i had a front white belt snap after 10 runs even with a new pulley in.
i may go to the black belts.
ive never had a belt snap but the teeth get mangled.i couldnt get a white belt so i just put the adjuster up a couple of clicks.
using a tighter belt adjustment from new maybe a way around this?the belt seems to have a lot of whiplash at the bottom.
i wouldnt mind a belt stablizer at the bottom deck like the one at the top.
ive ordered ta05 diff pulleys so hopefully will help a bit.
rick draper;is the ta05 centre pulleys a direct fit on to the standard 415 layshaft?
02-26-2006, 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by Sushi Man
I am very confused...
Do the TA05 center pulleys (51213) 16t plastic pulleys fit on a stock 415??
Where do u bolt it on? there are no like set screws.
Do the TA05 center pulleys (51213) 16t plastic pulleys fit on a stock 415??
Where do u bolt it on? there are no like set screws.
It will not fit unless you get the TA05 spurgear holder and the TA05 center shaft as well.
Some modifications are required I guees, I will order the parts and find out!!
02-26-2006, 01:34 AM
Guys, what can I do to get a little more high-speed, off power turn-in?
My winning streak came to an end today, and whilst I was doing quicker lap times than last race day, it wasn't enough to keep up and I had to settle for 2nd
On some parts of the track the car was just about perfect, but there were two corners where the car was suffering, coming off both the front straight(Bayside 8 picture) and back straight (Bayside 5 picture).
The car just understeered too much into those turns.
Any suggestions?
My winning streak came to an end today, and whilst I was doing quicker lap times than last race day, it wasn't enough to keep up and I had to settle for 2nd
On some parts of the track the car was just about perfect, but there were two corners where the car was suffering, coming off both the front straight(Bayside 8 picture) and back straight (Bayside 5 picture).
The car just understeered too much into those turns.
Any suggestions?
02-26-2006, 01:58 AM
Tech Master
Originally Posted by Eirik
It will not fit unless you get the TA05 spurgear holder and the TA05 center shaft as well.
Some modifications are required I guees, I will order the parts and find out!!
Some modifications are required I guees, I will order the parts and find out!!
is the centre shaft the same as the tao4 one?
leae tell us any difference and what you found please
02-26-2006, 01:59 AM
Bender,
here is a couple of things I would look at. The first would be droop, I would be running at least 4mm of rear droop if your having trouble with high-speed off power turn in. Secondly, I would play with the front shock oil, try a lighter weight even if its lighter than the rear. Try increasing the the amount of roll up front, lower the roll center at the front of the car. If that deson't seem to help, try experimenting with inboard toe, say try 1.5 degrees of inboard toe-out then try 0.5 or 1 degrees of outboard toe-out.
You may want to experiment with " positive dive" by adding spacers under the rear block on the front of the car. This really wakes the nose up at high-speed off power.
If you haven't played with bodies, I would start now. Try a Ride Accord type B or maybe even the Ride Stratus Mk. III, they both have pretty good high-speed turn in.
are you running a front & center one-way ?
here is a couple of things I would look at. The first would be droop, I would be running at least 4mm of rear droop if your having trouble with high-speed off power turn in. Secondly, I would play with the front shock oil, try a lighter weight even if its lighter than the rear. Try increasing the the amount of roll up front, lower the roll center at the front of the car. If that deson't seem to help, try experimenting with inboard toe, say try 1.5 degrees of inboard toe-out then try 0.5 or 1 degrees of outboard toe-out.
You may want to experiment with " positive dive" by adding spacers under the rear block on the front of the car. This really wakes the nose up at high-speed off power.
If you haven't played with bodies, I would start now. Try a Ride Accord type B or maybe even the Ride Stratus Mk. III, they both have pretty good high-speed turn in.
are you running a front & center one-way ?
02-26-2006, 02:02 AM
Tech Master
Originally Posted by bender
Guys, what can I do to get a little more high-speed, off power turn-in?
My winning streak came to an end today, and whilst I was doing quicker lap times than last race day, it wasn't enough to keep up and I had to settle for 2nd
On some parts of the track the car was just about perfect, but there were two corners where the car was suffering, coming off both the front straight(Bayside 8 picture) and back straight (Bayside 5 picture).
The car just understeered too much into those turns.
Any suggestions?
My winning streak came to an end today, and whilst I was doing quicker lap times than last race day, it wasn't enough to keep up and I had to settle for 2nd
On some parts of the track the car was just about perfect, but there were two corners where the car was suffering, coming off both the front straight(Bayside 8 picture) and back straight (Bayside 5 picture).
The car just understeered too much into those turns.
Any suggestions?
could be roll center or jus a chnage to shock oil.
post your set up and thatl help
02-26-2006, 03:01 AM
@Jack2 / TRF Racer
Ok my setup is attached. Some of things you've mentioned I am already running, such as inboard toe-out on the front and double one-ways.
I completely forgot about droop - that is something I'll try next time.
I have to be careful that I make adjustments that increase steering in those 2 corners only - as the car is already on th elimit of oversteer elsewhere on the track.
Ok my setup is attached. Some of things you've mentioned I am already running, such as inboard toe-out on the front and double one-ways.
I completely forgot about droop - that is something I'll try next time.
I have to be careful that I make adjustments that increase steering in those 2 corners only - as the car is already on th elimit of oversteer elsewhere on the track.
02-26-2006, 03:33 AM
Tech Master
all id change on that set up is 2mm of spacers behind front wishbones and 30wt shock oil all round.
will be quicker in corners and have slightly more steering.
also you could try HPI silver springs all round,very good outdoors and will make the front slighlty softer and the baslighly stiffer to what your running now,may make the difference.
if not atleast try the spacer and shock oil thing.
if you did that that would be almost exactly my outdoor set up although i use a a block behind the front wishbone aswell
will be quicker in corners and have slightly more steering.
also you could try HPI silver springs all round,very good outdoors and will make the front slighlty softer and the baslighly stiffer to what your running now,may make the difference.
if not atleast try the spacer and shock oil thing.
if you did that that would be almost exactly my outdoor set up although i use a a block behind the front wishbone aswell
02-26-2006, 03:34 AM
Tech Master
Originally Posted by trf racer
all id change on that set up is 2mm of spacers behind front wishbones and 30wt shock oil all round.
will be quicker in corners and have slightly more steering.
also you could try HPI silver springs all round,very good outdoors and will make the front slighlty softer and the baslighly stiffer to what your running now,may make the difference.
if not atleast try the spacer and shock oil thing.
if you did that that would be almost exactly my outdoor set up although i use a a block behind the front wishbone aswell
will be quicker in corners and have slightly more steering.
also you could try HPI silver springs all round,very good outdoors and will make the front slighlty softer and the baslighly stiffer to what your running now,may make the difference.
if not atleast try the spacer and shock oil thing.
if you did that that would be almost exactly my outdoor set up although i use a a block behind the front wishbone aswell
02-26-2006, 10:50 AM
Bender,
1. Make your front upper link longer (#3) and put a 2mm washer under the ballstud.
2. Move your front shocks inn one hole on the front arm (#3)
3. Remove the red foam thing from all your shocks.
4. Take the rear swaybar off.
All of this should help you get more steering, especially at high speed!!
Let me know how it works out!!
1. Make your front upper link longer (#3) and put a 2mm washer under the ballstud.
2. Move your front shocks inn one hole on the front arm (#3)
3. Remove the red foam thing from all your shocks.
4. Take the rear swaybar off.
All of this should help you get more steering, especially at high speed!!
Let me know how it works out!!
02-26-2006, 11:23 AM
Thanks guys 
Would it be possible to explain the ideas behind some of the changes you've mentioned as I'm not sure I understand why some of those changes would help
In particular:
Longer front link with 2mm spacer
Removing red foam from shocks
Lighter shock oil
Also, why would removing the sway bar help? I used it for the first time yesterday and the cars on-power steering was better than it had ever been. If I take it off then isn't it likely that I'll lose that power-on steering?
Would it be possible to explain the ideas behind some of the changes you've mentioned as I'm not sure I understand why some of those changes would help
In particular:
Longer front link with 2mm spacer
Removing red foam from shocks
Lighter shock oil
Also, why would removing the sway bar help? I used it for the first time yesterday and the cars on-power steering was better than it had ever been. If I take it off then isn't it likely that I'll lose that power-on steering?