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Old 05-08-2011 | 07:44 AM
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Inboard toe has a much more substantial impact to the wheelbase.
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Old 05-08-2011 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ZooB
i have a question about the AE setup sheets and rear toe.

i havent seen where they specify which rear suspension mount they use? is it implied that they are using the 2.5* unless otherwise stated? it always says what rear hubs they use, but never which arm mount....


maybe im blind but could someone help me out with this? thanks.
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The total toe is calculated by adding the toe block and the hubs, so if you're running .5 degree hub carries and a 2 degree toe block then you have a total of 2.5 for your toe. Hope that makes sense.
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Wouldnt it be 3 deg toe total? .5 hub on each side = 1 deg toe plus 2 deg toe on the mount
No it wouldn't be 3 degrees of total toe, you only use .5 degrees once if you have them on both sides. with a 2 degree block and .5 rear hubs, the total is 2.5. You only count the toe on one side for your total degrees of toe in
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Old 05-08-2011 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
gearing on a b4 tekin 8.5 no boost...any good start points? good sized out door track
with my "no boost" lrp sxx and banzai 8.5, I am geared 23/81, this is my start and main gearing, I run on medium size tracks, hope this helps
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Old 05-08-2011 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bds81175
Inboard toe has a much more substantial impact to the wheelbase.
I thought I had read in the past that more toe at the wheels gave you more traction but toe inboard was better for bumps? I too would really like to know the effects this has on the car? what would happen if I put a full degree or 1.5 degree at the wheel and 1.5 inboard?

I dont race on a typical track for todays standards... very bumpy dry and dusty and the jump layout is more designed for 1/8th scales.
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Old 05-08-2011 | 05:02 PM
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Dan Griffin describes it well:

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Changing the toe block changes the inboard toe. Increasing inboard toe in general provides more overall traction and makes the car more mechanically stiff. The downside of inboard toe is it can decrease cornerspeed.
Changing the outboard toe (hub carriers) is generally a mechanically softer change, and would be better suited for lots of sweeping corners. It also feels like a more subtle change.
The toe blocks also change the wheelbase of the car more than the hubs.
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Old 05-08-2011 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by racer53
I really like the RPM cups over the stock ball cups...been using them for the last year...
They are great, Ive bent some to the point I replaced them. But never come close to breaking any, and they don't pop off regularly either.
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Old 05-08-2011 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CCristo
Dan Griffin describes it well:

thanks so much! exactly the answer i was looking for!
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Old 05-08-2011 | 11:10 PM
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Old 05-09-2011 | 03:59 PM
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hey guys my b4.1 with 0 degree hubs and 3 degree toe in block is a tad loose in some sections but amazing in others. would a 3.5 block help? ik i have to put in a long wheel base after... thanks
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Old 05-09-2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NightcrawlerRc
No it wouldn't be 3 degrees of total toe, you only use .5 degrees once if you have them on both sides. with a 2 degree block and .5 rear hubs, the total is 2.5. You only count the toe on one side for your total degrees of toe in
If you have a 2 degree block I believe that is total toe which would = 1 degree per wheel. Add on a .5 degree hub would = 1.5 degree per wheel x 2 wheels = 3 degrees.
I'm no mathematician so I could be wrong.........

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Old 05-09-2011 | 05:22 PM
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Thinking of getting a B4.1. I don't want to read through hundreds of pages...

What are the weak areas of the car? I will be racing on a small/mid sized track. What are some immediate upgrades?

Thanks
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Old 05-09-2011 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vstrok
Thinking of getting a B4.1. I don't want to read through hundreds of pages...

What are the weak areas of the car? I will be racing on a small/mid sized track. What are some immediate upgrades?

Thanks
well buy a factory team and your set
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Old 05-09-2011 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vstrok
Thinking of getting a B4.1. I don't want to read through hundreds of pages...

What are the weak areas of the car? I will be racing on a small/mid sized track. What are some immediate upgrades?

Thanks
well i use the factory team turnbuckles but a lot of people use titanium so it doesnt break

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Old 05-09-2011 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
well i use the alluminum turnbuckles but a lot of people use titanium so it doesnt break
Aluminum turnbuckles??
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Old 05-09-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Trimmings
Aluminum turnbuckles??
maybe he thinks the FT blue turnbuckles are aluminum?
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