The car and wheels are all supposed to come at the same time. Currently showing 2/20 or the kit and all spares. Remember the kit will come with two sets of front and rear wheels ready for what ever rubber you want!

As always Casper, thanks for keeping us informed and up to date. Do we know if 2/20 is the shipping date for all of us anxious waiters, or is that the date TLR is shipping kits out to vendors, that will then be passed on to us a week or so later than 2/20?

Tyicially this is the date they hit Horizon stock. The date is subject to change as it is dependent on the boat arriving and things getting though customs ect. Depending on how far away your LHS is from a distrubution center and how long it takes them to check in stock will determine how long it is before they are on shelves.

Does two sets of front and rear mean 4 front wheels and 4 rear wheels or 2 front and 2 rear? just making sure

Set= a pair of wheels so 4 front wheels and 4 rear wheels.

Actually... "A set" of wheels consist of 4 wheels that will mount on the car at the same time. A pair is well... 2.. lol

i hope it comes sooner than later, our points season starts on feb 26 and i got no car as i sold out to fund my 22

I'm gonna go to the track and tear it up with my new TLR22.... it's gonna be soo sweet. Just gotta wait.... lil..bit...longer.... I have a all Brand new DEX410r pimped up and schemed out ready to go and couldn't care about running it with it's small bore shocks. It's all about the 22 !!!

Can't wait.... Losi domination !

Hey Casper, I actually got it with this explanation.

So what kind of different handling characteristics can we expect if we want to run the mid-motor setup? It seems like one of the youtube videos talked about a mid-motor car being easier to drive or be more forgiving. Anyone have any experience with mid-motor that can help us understand how it will effect car handling, and why rear motor is still preferred for US tracks?

thanks guys.

Can't wait to see this car in person, waiting for it's arrival to start 2WD racing!

+1 i would like some info on this as well

I thought it was Kyosho up at LIR.

If you check my earlier post on this thread (post number 204) this might help give you an initial indication of the mid vs rear motor characteristics.
Over here in the UK, we have an almost complete reversal in preference as you do - the mid motor is now almost completely dominant. The perceived lack of traction is largely a myth now - the mid cars can generate enough grip in any situation other than except for the first few inches of straight away drive in very slick conditions but by and large, I believe the ultimate decision of rear vs mid is not to do with the traction but to do with the style of track and the type of corners on the track. The mid car has a great advantage in longer, sweeping corners - in a point and shoot hairpin, perhaps the initial drive from a rear car can help in the very slickest of conditions. We ran in freezing conditions on ice-covered astroturf on Sunday and the mid motor car was still the preferred option for our drivers - they do require a different driving style and a different approach to setup though - but once you've adapted, I think the mid car is easier to be more consistent with in virtually any application.
As to why the rear car is more popular in your country? I guess it is largely driven by experience, setup knowledge and the fact that almost all of your pro-racers still run the rear car. Ultimate pace is perhaps not much different (as I'm sure Brian Kinwald can attest to) - the difference is in consistency and also that in a dogfight, the mid car enables you to be more forceful than the rear car - you can attack the corners harder and use the brakes knowing that almost all of your mass is contained within the car's wheelbase - thus you have very little pendulum affect from the weight transfer.

For me, the mid car is faster - but the rear car still has that allure of looking just right and feeling just like a proper 2WD race buggy should feel.

Hope this helps

The mid cars in lower traction dirt just don't seem to perform as well as the rear cars do. Maybe it is a lack of pro support for the mid motor cars but they do perform better as traction increases on dirt. The neat thing about the 22 is we will be able to use one platform and work with both setups and see where we go. No need for two cars just need to convert this one! It will be interesting to see what people in the US do with the car trying mid and rear motors.