TLR 22 Racing Buggy Thread
#167
AE
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 254
Steering Rack:
We chose the steering rack configuration for two reasons:
1) True ackerman can be achieved and steering geometry is much more consistent throughout the steering throw. The end result is a very neutral steering feedback around center and increased steering as the throw increases. In other words you do not have a super twitchy car around center just to make it turn.
2) Packaging. The was secondary, but the rack system is very simple and takes up less room. having the servo mounted further forward gave us the EXACT weight distribution we were after. The result? better steering center out.
We tested the rack system on all types of tracks for months and have never had it lock up. it also has been tested in Europe (does it rain there?) and have had zero issues. There are self cleaning grooves in the rack to wipe away dust/debris. We have put alot of development time into this rack system
We chose the steering rack configuration for two reasons:
1) True ackerman can be achieved and steering geometry is much more consistent throughout the steering throw. The end result is a very neutral steering feedback around center and increased steering as the throw increases. In other words you do not have a super twitchy car around center just to make it turn.
2) Packaging. The was secondary, but the rack system is very simple and takes up less room. having the servo mounted further forward gave us the EXACT weight distribution we were after. The result? better steering center out.
We tested the rack system on all types of tracks for months and have never had it lock up. it also has been tested in Europe (does it rain there?) and have had zero issues. There are self cleaning grooves in the rack to wipe away dust/debris. We have put alot of development time into this rack system
#170
That being said, I'm sure Losi has it figured out. If I had someplace to race offroad around here, I would pick one of these up in a heartbeat.
#171
I had to take a cold shower!! WOW!!!
It all looks great!!
But since its a free world ill point out the things that i dont like:
- E-clips.. I don't need to got there.
- HEX Ok i like hex wheel adapters. But could we not all get on the same page and agree on one wheel design? Touring cars have 10x the amount of cars out there and yet they all use the same hex on every brand of car... What annoys me here is losi changed there front wheel hex. So toss out your losi fronts you own know. The saving grace here is the hex in the rear is optional so you can use up your b4,jc and xxx rims with the cross pin
- minor but id like to see a bleed screw on the shocks
- steering slider.. guess we will have to see how it holds up, not sure if it will bind up over time
- hopefully the 4wd inspired front spindles hold up..
- release date of first quarter 2011.. sucks
FYI i want one!
It all looks great!!
But since its a free world ill point out the things that i dont like:
- E-clips.. I don't need to got there.
- HEX Ok i like hex wheel adapters. But could we not all get on the same page and agree on one wheel design? Touring cars have 10x the amount of cars out there and yet they all use the same hex on every brand of car... What annoys me here is losi changed there front wheel hex. So toss out your losi fronts you own know. The saving grace here is the hex in the rear is optional so you can use up your b4,jc and xxx rims with the cross pin
- minor but id like to see a bleed screw on the shocks
- steering slider.. guess we will have to see how it holds up, not sure if it will bind up over time
- hopefully the 4wd inspired front spindles hold up..
- release date of first quarter 2011.. sucks
FYI i want one!
#174
Well, if you are dead set on picking nits, then have at it. I know the benefits of a rack steering system over bellcranks, so it doesn't bother me much in the least.
#176
But like i said, if I had a place to race it, I would trust that they got it right and have one on pre-order. Car looks great.
#177
Well done.
#178
1st of 2011 quarter means between January 1 and March 31. We've learned from past product releases that it's sometimes painful to get your heart set on a day only to have it pass by. I'm just going to race my XXXcr through this indoor season. If it comes out in late Feburary, it might as well come out in August for those of us that mostly race 1/10 indoors/winter so we get the benefit of seeing the model shake out and shops stocking up their replacement parts for the 1st few months.
Great job TL, this looks like winner. Looks like it's nearly as simple as the XXX platform, which was always one of my favorite things about it.
Great job TL, this looks like winner. Looks like it's nearly as simple as the XXX platform, which was always one of my favorite things about it.
#179



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