I can understand where you are coming from Mark, I really can. Having attended a reasonable number of sanctioned events over the last 2 years, in my experience, it hasn't impacted greatly on my practice rounds and first qualifier however I quite readily admit I am A not a great driver thus it doesn't have a huge impact on my qualifying result and B my practice/qualifiers seem to be quite reasonably marshalled as I am typically in the lower ranked drives where I could see that in the higher ranked drivers, attending more sanctioned events per year the extra day off makes quite the difference. (I atttend typically 3 to 4 sanctioned events a year, where the higher ranked guys do almost all of them).

Its gonna be a tough call either way and you will never please everyone (your always gonna have people bitching and moaning), to be entirely honest, I am not sure going to 3 day events or staying at 4 day events is going to make a measurable difference to attendance. From when I started back in 2008, attendance numbers have only grown typically.
Generally, we need the 1/8 IC Offroad community to bemore considerate of each other to aleviate some ofthe marshalling issues and things would be much better. We have to cater for everyone, and not favour anyone. Glad I am not on the committee for IC Offroad, maybe I am just too diplomatic for it. Maybe it can be at the clubs discretion but they need to announce it in a suitable time frame prior to close of nominations.

I do agree that having people rocking up and nominating at the meet or nominating late is just not on, it makes life so much harder for the organisers of the meet and generally jerks everyone else around. AARCMCC says to close nominations 4 weeks prior and late entry is at the clubs discretion. I would like to see more clubs shutting it of 4 weeks prior at the latest, if you can't nominate 4 weeks earlier, then tough biscut, people have to be a bit more organised.

Hi Guys,

This topic certainly has brought on some good debate and a lof of "if's and buts"

With all that's been discussed, I honestly think the best thing for our sport to move forward is :-

• Run 3 - 4 State title events per year
• Get rid of the wording "at race directors or clubs discretion" in the rules
• Keep them 4 days if 3-4 each year

I would put my house on the fact if there were only 3 to 4 each year with each state getting a title every 2 years that the numbers would always be above 200 and would make it a lot more viable and financial for each state club to hold the title aswell.

Lets face it at present if you wanted to do all the states and nationals, it is 9 races in 10 months, which if taking 2 days minimum and 3 days maximim off work for each title would require 18 or 27 days annual leave from work!! No one can afford to do that and that is why I feel we really do need to look into where we want to head in our sport.

There is no rule that says you have to do all the events. The last few years have shown that majority of racers won't travel long distances to race. The previous point score showed this. Of nearly 400 people who raced in the 08/09 pointscore less than 150 actually attended 2 or more races. The vast majority of entrants only raced at their own state titles. I would love to know how many actually flew to an event, ie didn't go unless they could drive there.

Why would we want to cut races from the calendar? Is it pressure from sponsors to attend all events ? If its the about points remember the rule is that only your best 2 events in 2 years counts from a minimum of 4 attended.

The reason I would like to see events cut from the calender is to.

Less races per year would attract more racers to the events that are on.

More racers attending an event would financially help that club to better it's facilities.
Better facilities equals more racers.
The cycle keeps building.

With the exeption of well established clubs the way things are at present it almost costs the clubs money to run a state title which prevents that club from bettering itself and more importantly Growing.

If last year we had over 400 overall entrants but only 150 did 2 or more titles, then if we could attract that 150 to each state title by having fewer of them then that equates to very decent entry fee's for each club especially if they enter truggy aswell.
It does look better than the 39 buggy and 29 truggy that was just experienced at the vics.

Hrrrm

Kev i wouldn't use Mildura's vic titles as an example... the location had a lot to do with the entry list... 4hrs from adelaide and more from melbourne will always make for a difficult to attract huge entries.. And i am not detracting from the event, i had a ball! I actually prefer racing at the regional clubs cos the atmosphere is always better!

I am sure if the vics were held in the metro there would have been alot more interstate entries.

I think it would be wrong to cut the number of "state titles" each state and territory should have the right to hold their state title each year if they choose to do so!

It might be worth thinking about splitting the difference.

Run state championship meetings over 3 days, but keep nationals at 4. To my mind the nats is the premier event, and it would be reasonable for it to run longer.

As a relative newcomer in this class of racing, it is at least partly the length of state races that stops me getting to them.

According the current rule book, any major event that has Slyfox RMT providing the lap counting, has in correct qualifying procedure. It should be a points system over all qualifying rounds, not single best qualifier to count for your final qualifying position.
Not having a go at Slyfox RMT, Peter does a fantastic job. I don't think anyone has pointed it out to him.
My point is that the online rules for nitro off road are out of date.

Not sure what event you are talking about, but i have never been to a sanctioned event (State or National Titles) where the best qualifier has ever been used

What State or National Title do you attend where this happened?

pretty sure gp onroad qualifys that way.. That is the true meaning of qualifying, going all out for the quickest time,and not worrying about having to do well at every round.

Yeah thats correct, onroad GP uses your single best qualifier to determine the finals...

Andrew,

It has been conducted 4 best rounds out of 6 to count... in every major meet i have attended in the last 5 years!
Not sure where you have gotten your info on single best determining the qualifying order of any offroad meet in the past few years...

Glen,
Apologies from me, not reading the results sheet correctly.
The results I looked at, have a big highlighted box showing best quali, thought it was done from that. What the sheet doesn't show is the dropped rounds. That is what threw me, not hard to confuse me.

In the case of a two or more driver tie with points after 6 rounds with 2 dropped, how are the drivers seperated?

Current rules



6.3 d)

ranking and points score.

6.3 f) If a driver does not start a heat, he receives no points.

It is based on your next best result.........ie. where did you finish compared to the person you tied with.