Timing on Novak motors!?
09-20-2010 | 11:37 AM
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Timing on Novak motors!?
Hi,
Need some help with the timing on my motors. I run Novak Ballistic motors and Speed Passion GT2.0 speed controls.
For instance, in my 2wd B4 I have a 8.5T and the GT2.0. Is there an optimal software timing I should use? Also what end-bell timing is recommended for Novak motors?
Thanks in advance,
Z
Need some help with the timing on my motors. I run Novak Ballistic motors and Speed Passion GT2.0 speed controls.
For instance, in my 2wd B4 I have a 8.5T and the GT2.0. Is there an optimal software timing I should use? Also what end-bell timing is recommended for Novak motors?
Thanks in advance,
Z
09-20-2010 | 11:43 AM
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If you are using a Timing Advance esc, you could just leave your motor timing at the factory default, 30 degrees. We have linked a Tech Update on Ballistic Timing (PDF) to our Ballistic information pages (left column), for example:
BRUSHLESS HAS GONE BALLISTIC
BRUSHLESS HAS GONE BALLISTIC
09-20-2010 | 01:43 PM
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I have checked the document and it has answered one of my questions, all though, I was more curious about the Timing Advance I should use on my esc. Because I heard somewhere that Novak motors should be run with no (or low) timing advance on the esc? Is this true? Why if so?
Thanks again, great support!
Z
09-20-2010 | 01:52 PM
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09-20-2010 | 02:37 PM
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What factory pre-set would you suggest we adopt, and why?
09-20-2010 | 02:42 PM
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We can offer no guidance on other mfgs' esc timing advance settings. However, we suggest that, with the Kinetic, you start out by not changing your motor timing and follow the instructions that come with the Kinetic.
We do not advise using advanced timing with 3.5 or 4.5T 540 motors (offered by any mfg.).
We do not advise using advanced timing with 3.5 or 4.5T 540 motors (offered by any mfg.).
Thanks for your answer.
I have checked the document and it has answered one of my questions, all though, I was more curious about the Timing Advance I should use on my esc. Because I heard somewhere that Novak motors should be run with no (or low) timing advance on the esc? Is this true? Why if so?
Thanks again, great support!
Z
I have checked the document and it has answered one of my questions, all though, I was more curious about the Timing Advance I should use on my esc. Because I heard somewhere that Novak motors should be run with no (or low) timing advance on the esc? Is this true? Why if so?
Thanks again, great support!
Z
09-20-2010 | 03:03 PM
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09-20-2010 | 03:11 PM
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Not to belabor this, but you said "thats a but load of timing as it is"
And I responded that it is optimal (not a butt load) electrical timing for our motor design:
And I responded that it is optimal (not a butt load) electrical timing for our motor design:
We set our timing at an optimized point for most general applications. Adjusting the timing should only be done in small increments and with great care to observe the changes in system performance and temperatures.
Our Ballistic motors come with their timing calibrated and set from the factory. Using custom built and calibrated electronic equipment we set each and every motor to 30 degrees of timing. After Calibration the timing label is added and this set timing corresponds to the “N” or "30" on the timing label on the side.
The timing we are describing is the ACTUAL ELECTRICAL TIMING in the motor, not just some arbitrarily reference made from a point on the outside of the motor like many of our competitors' motors. This makes comparing timing settings between different brands of motors difficult without the proper equipment.
Our Ballistic motors come with their timing calibrated and set from the factory. Using custom built and calibrated electronic equipment we set each and every motor to 30 degrees of timing. After Calibration the timing label is added and this set timing corresponds to the “N” or "30" on the timing label on the side.
The timing we are describing is the ACTUAL ELECTRICAL TIMING in the motor, not just some arbitrarily reference made from a point on the outside of the motor like many of our competitors' motors. This makes comparing timing settings between different brands of motors difficult without the proper equipment.
09-20-2010 | 03:25 PM
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going back to
timing = speed = heat.
09-20-2010 | 03:48 PM
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09-20-2010 | 04:06 PM
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