8T 2.0
08-26-2010 | 11:02 AM
#8881
08-26-2010 | 06:58 PM
#8882
X2
Couple things I would try. Shortened rear camber links. For V1 tower run lower on the tower and A on the hub. You'll need to shorten the links some or buy a set of the 107mm front links.
Check your servo saver. It needs to be very tight.
Check your ride height. Ride height is essential on the losi cars. 39mm front and 42mm rear. You have to make sure you're setting ride height at the track on race day. Even a slight difference in ambient temperature can change your ride height. Half tank of fuel, and everything on the truck ready to go.
How's the tire situation? Is it possible that this problem is coming from running the wrong tires for your surface? Tires are the single biggest factor in setup.
What shock pistons and oils are you running? What's your droop setting front and rear? Give us some more info.
I know it has been suggested to try the short ackerman. That may or may not help you. The short ackerman will give you a bunch more turn in off power, but may not help with on-power steering.
Couple things I would try. Shortened rear camber links. For V1 tower run lower on the tower and A on the hub. You'll need to shorten the links some or buy a set of the 107mm front links.
Check your servo saver. It needs to be very tight.
Check your ride height. Ride height is essential on the losi cars. 39mm front and 42mm rear. You have to make sure you're setting ride height at the track on race day. Even a slight difference in ambient temperature can change your ride height. Half tank of fuel, and everything on the truck ready to go.
How's the tire situation? Is it possible that this problem is coming from running the wrong tires for your surface? Tires are the single biggest factor in setup.
What shock pistons and oils are you running? What's your droop setting front and rear? Give us some more info.
I know it has been suggested to try the short ackerman. That may or may not help you. The short ackerman will give you a bunch more turn in off power, but may not help with on-power steering.
is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
08-26-2010 | 07:06 PM
#8883
OK guys, my original question is on pg 590,I've checked the truck and all my info is on the setup sheet attached, also the part of the the track thats giving me fits is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.
Attachment 634394 Attachment 634405
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.Attachment 634394 Attachment 634405
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
08-26-2010 | 08:42 PM
#8884
OK guys, my original question is on pg 590,I've checked the truck and all my info is on the setup sheet attached, also the part of the the track thats giving me fits is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.
Attachment 634394 Attachment 634405
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.Attachment 634394 Attachment 634405
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
08-26-2010 | 08:51 PM
#8886
i do see you run 3k in the rear. ive been thinking of trying it, what did you find in trying it?
08-26-2010 | 09:04 PM
#8887
I like the feel of fresh 2k in the rear. Problem is by the time the mains come around at a big race, it no longer feels fresh. I run the 3k, and by the time it is worn in it feels like fresh 2k. That's my experience and silly reasoning.
08-26-2010 | 09:12 PM
#8888
Rotarynut... After reading the tire section on your setup, I see that you are running "standard size" rims. By standard size do you mean maxx size vs. LPR size? If so that could be part of the problem. That size hasn't been standard for a long time, and for good reason. That tire setup will be nowhere near as nimble/precise as the newer LPR/VTR size setups.
Not to mention that even LPR sized rims rub on the arms of this truck some. I can't imagine that you're getting full lock with the shorter maxx sized rims. That could be your issue right there.
Not to mention that even LPR sized rims rub on the arms of this truck some. I can't imagine that you're getting full lock with the shorter maxx sized rims. That could be your issue right there.
08-26-2010 | 09:19 PM
#8889
OK guys, my original question is on pg 590,I've checked the truck and all my info is on the setup sheet attached, also the part of the the track thats giving me fits is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.
Attachment 634394 Attachment 634405
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
is in the picture attached , the track runs in the opposite direction in which the tractor is facing.the S turn behind the tractor and the double S's leading to the 2 double jumps on top of the picture, If you can give me ideas as to what I can change to get more onpower steering to get thru these two sections I would greatly appreciate it,thanks.Attachment 634394 Attachment 634405
thanks Jensen for picture of the track Atlanta r/c supercross, Lilburn Ga. &
www.georgiarcracers.com
If your truck still pushes, try letting off the gas in the corner.
08-27-2010 | 03:38 AM
#8890
i really find that the lower front ride height helps with turn in. it allows the weight to travel forward harder and put a lot of grip on the front of the truggy
i run the front camber links at 3/B, up on the tower and out on the hub. since changing to that setup i haven't suffered any push through the corners. extra front toe out helps aswell
i also found that alot of push comes from the rear of the truggy. if you have too much rear traction the truggy will push badly
heres the setup i have run for awhile now.
i run the front camber links at 3/B, up on the tower and out on the hub. since changing to that setup i haven't suffered any push through the corners. extra front toe out helps aswell
i also found that alot of push comes from the rear of the truggy. if you have too much rear traction the truggy will push badly
heres the setup i have run for awhile now.
08-27-2010 | 10:33 AM
#8891
i really find that the lower front ride height helps with turn in. it allows the weight to travel forward harder and put a lot of grip on the front of the truggy
i run the front camber links at 3/B, up on the tower and out on the hub. since changing to that setup i haven't suffered any push through the corners. extra front toe out helps aswell
i also found that alot of push comes from the rear of the truggy. if you have too much rear traction the truggy will push badly
heres the setup i have run for awhile now.
Attachment 634529
i run the front camber links at 3/B, up on the tower and out on the hub. since changing to that setup i haven't suffered any push through the corners. extra front toe out helps aswell
i also found that alot of push comes from the rear of the truggy. if you have too much rear traction the truggy will push badly
heres the setup i have run for awhile now.
Attachment 634529
Have you tried the short rear link (1/A) set-up? It seems to give the truck much more corner speed. Rotary, I also suggest you try the short link set-up.
08-27-2010 | 10:36 AM
#8892
08-27-2010 | 05:58 PM
#8893
Thanks to all for your responses,gonna start making some changes, first with the inexpensive ones, then the ones with $$$ involved. Jammincrazy you mentioned the tires/wheels but beleive it or not at first I was using PL Crimefighter LPR's then switched to JC double D's w/maxx wheels and it drove much,much better but still pushing the ft thru mid corner and exit under power. Oh! BTW when I stated that I had Drakes set up I said "basically"which meant it had some changes otherwise I'd have said "exactly",
08-27-2010 | 08:51 PM
#8894
Thanks to all for your responses,gonna start making some changes, first with the inexpensive ones, then the ones with $$$ involved. Jammincrazy you mentioned the tires/wheels but beleive it or not at first I was using PL Crimefighter LPR's then switched to JC double D's w/maxx wheels and it drove much,much better but still pushing the ft thru mid corner and exit under power. Oh! BTW when I stated that I had Drakes set up I said "basically"which meant it had some changes otherwise I'd have said "exactly",
As for the tires, the improvement in your handling most likely came from the tread of the tire, not the size. You really need to stick with LPR sized tires. The old Maxx sized tires will make any truck feel sluggish. DD's and Crimes are VERY different treads. Maybe try some half up DD's or some VTR Holeshots. Ask around at your track(s) and see what guys are running. Your issues may all be coming from tires. Tires are the single biggest element of setup.
Please, whatever you do, get rid of the aluminum chassis braces. Everyone runs the plastic braces for a reason. With the aluminum chassis braces(especially coupled with the RTR chassis) you are removing a ton of chassis flex... Not a good thing to get rid of.
08-27-2010 | 11:00 PM
#8895
that setup was designed to make the truggy drive more like a buggy. id rather my truggy drove like a truggy
It made my truggy push real bad off power. i had to ride the breaks right into the corner to make the back swing around.
everyone i know here that has tryed that setup has changed back to stock
its the front roll center and camber gain setup that gives me so much steering
all i do is tune the amount of slide i want from the rear with the swaybar, shock location and spring rate. at the extreme i change the diff oil back to 2K