Disc spring as Centax clutch spring ?
07-04-2010, 10:18 AM
#31
DAX I can imagine because not a lot of people are modifying cars than only other brand parts. But have you seen all 80 clutches what kind of springs they are using and even if there are no discs how sure are you of the used springs and all other parts if they are to get for the normal drivers?
07-04-2010, 02:24 PM
#32
Suspended
How is it going Pieter?
07-04-2010, 03:17 PM
#33
Tech Regular
Roelof I think its a beautiful thing how you share your hobby on rctech. I have learned from you and many other people on here.
07-05-2010, 03:29 AM
#34
Suspended
But... we live in a democratic world where everybody can give his opinion, good or bad.
07-05-2010, 05:33 AM
#35
The belleville setup definately works and it gives you the most consitant clutch I have seen so far.
I think you would be amazed how many top guys are using these.
They just can't tell, since they are supposed to run "stock" cars.
The greatest thing about this is, that noone is forcing nobody to use it
I think you would be amazed how many top guys are using these.
They just can't tell, since they are supposed to run "stock" cars.
The greatest thing about this is, that noone is forcing nobody to use it
07-05-2010, 07:15 AM
#36
Thanx, but this is not innovative but just something I have seen and wanted to try.
Maybe we will test it on the track next weekend. Just the feeling of it was very good with the 0.5mm discs but I have also 0.7mm which has twice the strenth and 0.8mm which has 3 times the strenth of the 0.5mm. They had only the plain steel discs which hold their specs up to 80 degrees celcius so I was told.
I think with the 0.5mm discs 10 pieces are enough to give enough room for the tension nut. The thicker discs will be milled to the right size to give it a try so we know what to use.
All about these springs can be found in here:
http://www.schnorr.com/docs/Handbook.pdf
Interesting is how you can change the character of the spring, with 10 discs you can try several things to get the best out of it
My sponsor was also amazed and when we have tested all sizes I think he will order several hundreds and put them on a bar to machine them to the right size.
Maybe we will test it on the track next weekend. Just the feeling of it was very good with the 0.5mm discs but I have also 0.7mm which has twice the strenth and 0.8mm which has 3 times the strenth of the 0.5mm. They had only the plain steel discs which hold their specs up to 80 degrees celcius so I was told.
I think with the 0.5mm discs 10 pieces are enough to give enough room for the tension nut. The thicker discs will be milled to the right size to give it a try so we know what to use.
All about these springs can be found in here:
http://www.schnorr.com/docs/Handbook.pdf
Interesting is how you can change the character of the spring, with 10 discs you can try several things to get the best out of it
My sponsor was also amazed and when we have tested all sizes I think he will order several hundreds and put them on a bar to machine them to the right size.
07-08-2010, 05:53 AM
#38
. The Shephard spring is the hardest and longest spring out there, and it's the cheapest. P.m me and I'll get you the part number. Don't be a stranger at the next race, stop by and get your interview . Oh, I should have one new left over in my parts bag. Do you know where I can get a conrod for a Ninja MR on road 21?
07-08-2010, 08:11 AM
#40
Drifting off.....
I have read somewhere in the offroad part on this forum that the Technopower rod is the same.....
Ontopic: I believe the partnumber was already given bij Sorber on page 2 of this topic.
I have read somewhere in the offroad part on this forum that the Technopower rod is the same.....
Ontopic: I believe the partnumber was already given bij Sorber on page 2 of this topic.
10-10-2010, 07:24 PM
#41
Any new developments?
10-11-2010, 09:46 AM
#42
Not yet, I have to make some time to get the springs from another material.
It seems the 5mm springs do fine, 10 pieces do fill up the space and almost no pre-tension is needed but the cheap springs I have now are to much temperature sensitive, I was told they loose power already at 80 degees celcius. The other material should withstand up to 200 degrees celcius and do cost about 40 cent a spring instead of 8 cent but then again you will come up to 4 euro a full spring.
With the 5mm springs there is an high rpm clutch engage possible with less slip, I have tryed the 7mm but I think it was to much. I also have the information about the kit sold by the german shop and must figure it out if that works better or the same, all I can say they are using a combination of several springs to a more progressive setting.
For us the winter season has started so there is some time although in my function within the Dutch NOMAC it is the time to list all new proposals and organise meetings working to the new season ;(
It seems the 5mm springs do fine, 10 pieces do fill up the space and almost no pre-tension is needed but the cheap springs I have now are to much temperature sensitive, I was told they loose power already at 80 degees celcius. The other material should withstand up to 200 degrees celcius and do cost about 40 cent a spring instead of 8 cent but then again you will come up to 4 euro a full spring.
With the 5mm springs there is an high rpm clutch engage possible with less slip, I have tryed the 7mm but I think it was to much. I also have the information about the kit sold by the german shop and must figure it out if that works better or the same, all I can say they are using a combination of several springs to a more progressive setting.
For us the winter season has started so there is some time although in my function within the Dutch NOMAC it is the time to list all new proposals and organise meetings working to the new season ;(
05-04-2011, 09:48 AM
#43
Beside that German shop mentioned in this topic there is a new brand:
http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/pirani-...clutch-spring/
http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/pirani-...clutch-spring/
05-20-2011, 10:08 AM
#44
Hi!
Did someone use these shims in a Capricorn LAB-C01 WCE clutch??
If yes, how much shims did i have to use??
10 or 12?
And how much is the pre-load?
Regards,
Michael
Did someone use these shims in a Capricorn LAB-C01 WCE clutch??
If yes, how much shims did i have to use??
10 or 12?
And how much is the pre-load?
Regards,
Michael
07-17-2011, 06:51 AM
#45
Beside that German shop mentioned in this topic there is a new brand:
http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/pirani-...clutch-spring/
http://www.redrc.net/2011/05/pirani-...clutch-spring/