RcRenew.com engine resizing and epoxy crank re-filling
#16
Lance is the man!!!
I have never seen him have an engine problem at a race... Last time I saw you at Rev you were running one of your werks engines that you re-sized right?? that thing looked like it was running great!
I have never seen him have an engine problem at a race... Last time I saw you at Rev you were running one of your werks engines that you re-sized right?? that thing looked like it was running great!
#19
Hey Lance Thanks a bunch, I cant wait to get it. The service you did on our Os Speed is great it has made a believer out of my Dad which is hard to do, but he's seen the light and if it saves us a couple of bucks we are all over it. By the way that OS has three races on it since you did your magic.Keep up the good work . Stay Fast ..Kaulin Hall
#20
I don't know where this notion that "showing" your equipment is going to make the difference between the average person knowing that one is a quality service and others are not. Anything more complex than a hose clamp may look impressive, but until you've tried all the various methods and know for sure that one method is better than the other, it's irrelevant. Not to mention that the method itself may be a closely guarded process and the key to that service's effectiveness. Which begs the question, why would anyone expect a service to reveal this? Even if the person asking is a skilled machinist and metallurgist, a picture will not tell them anything about the quality and effectiveness of the service. So it's even more pointless to reveal it to those that are completely unqualified. If you have concerns because it's a new service, get feedback from customers. If it's all coming up roses, that tells you a lot more about where to spend your money than a picture of a tool.
I will offer this much - I'd rather the sleeve not be polished to improve it's appearance. It's only cosmetic and can compromise engine performance in two ways (not a lot, but I'm picky). A polished surface is "sticky" and will compromise the atomization of the air/fuel mixture as it passes through the ports. Additionally, it reduces the diameter of the sleeve ever so slightly. It's been my experience that engines with a tight fitting sleeve ALWAYS run better than an engine with a sleeve that easily slides into the engine block. Without getting into the theories of why, I've seen the positive effects of a tight sleeve on hundreds of engines and every one of them has run slightly better as a result. It makes maintenance a little harder because the sleeve isn't as easily removed, but when you see this in a engine, it's a keeper. Not crazy tight, but snug.
I'd actually like to see if some form or knurling and resizing the outside of the sleeve would have an even more positive effect than doing nothing. The pinching process often involves clamping down on the sleeve, which further reduces its OD, so resizing the outside seems that it would pay some benefit. Ultimately this is an exercise in extending the life of the engine as inexpensively as possible, so this may not make sense in the final analysis due to increased cost, but suffice it to say, I would at least prefer no polishing of the sleeve.
Best of luck with your service and kudos for doing what you can for your family.
I will offer this much - I'd rather the sleeve not be polished to improve it's appearance. It's only cosmetic and can compromise engine performance in two ways (not a lot, but I'm picky). A polished surface is "sticky" and will compromise the atomization of the air/fuel mixture as it passes through the ports. Additionally, it reduces the diameter of the sleeve ever so slightly. It's been my experience that engines with a tight fitting sleeve ALWAYS run better than an engine with a sleeve that easily slides into the engine block. Without getting into the theories of why, I've seen the positive effects of a tight sleeve on hundreds of engines and every one of them has run slightly better as a result. It makes maintenance a little harder because the sleeve isn't as easily removed, but when you see this in a engine, it's a keeper. Not crazy tight, but snug.
I'd actually like to see if some form or knurling and resizing the outside of the sleeve would have an even more positive effect than doing nothing. The pinching process often involves clamping down on the sleeve, which further reduces its OD, so resizing the outside seems that it would pay some benefit. Ultimately this is an exercise in extending the life of the engine as inexpensively as possible, so this may not make sense in the final analysis due to increased cost, but suffice it to say, I would at least prefer no polishing of the sleeve.
Best of luck with your service and kudos for doing what you can for your family.
#21
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 75
From: Palmdale Ca
Being as he is from the Rev area I think I have a good idea what system he is using. If its the one I am thinking of I have the same unit and it works great have pinched 5 of my personal sleeves with very good results. I have had a Plus 4 sized with Rays equipment before and I find no difference so far in the final outcome. Good luck with your new business wish you the best.
#22
I don't know where this notion that "showing" your equipment is going to make the difference between the average person knowing that one is a quality service and others are not. Anything more complex than a hose clamp may look impressive, but until you've tried all the various methods and know for sure that one method is better than the other, it's irrelevant. Not to mention that the method itself may be a closely guarded process and the key to that service's effectiveness. Which begs the question, why would anyone expect a service to reveal this? Even if the person asking is a skilled machinist and metallurgist, a picture will not tell them anything about the quality and effectiveness of the service. So it's even more pointless to reveal it to those that are completely unqualified. If you have concerns because it's a new service, get feedback from customers. If it's all coming up roses, that tells you a lot more about where to spend your money than a picture of a tool.
I will offer this much - I'd rather the sleeve not be polished to improve it's appearance. It's only cosmetic and can compromise engine performance in two ways (not a lot, but I'm picky). A polished surface is "sticky" and will compromise the atomization of the air/fuel mixture as it passes through the ports. Additionally, it reduces the diameter of the sleeve ever so slightly. It's been my experience that engines with a tight fitting sleeve ALWAYS run better than an engine with a sleeve that easily slides into the engine block. Without getting into the theories of why, I've seen the positive effects of a tight sleeve on hundreds of engines and every one of them has run slightly better as a result. It makes maintenance a little harder because the sleeve isn't as easily removed, but when you see this in a engine, it's a keeper. Not crazy tight, but snug.
I'd actually like to see if some form or knurling and resizing the outside of the sleeve would have an even more positive effect than doing nothing. The pinching process often involves clamping down on the sleeve, which further reduces its OD, so resizing the outside seems that it would pay some benefit. Ultimately this is an exercise in extending the life of the engine as inexpensively as possible, so this may not make sense in the final analysis due to increased cost, but suffice it to say, I would at least prefer no polishing of the sleeve.
Best of luck with your service and kudos for doing what you can for your family.
I will offer this much - I'd rather the sleeve not be polished to improve it's appearance. It's only cosmetic and can compromise engine performance in two ways (not a lot, but I'm picky). A polished surface is "sticky" and will compromise the atomization of the air/fuel mixture as it passes through the ports. Additionally, it reduces the diameter of the sleeve ever so slightly. It's been my experience that engines with a tight fitting sleeve ALWAYS run better than an engine with a sleeve that easily slides into the engine block. Without getting into the theories of why, I've seen the positive effects of a tight sleeve on hundreds of engines and every one of them has run slightly better as a result. It makes maintenance a little harder because the sleeve isn't as easily removed, but when you see this in a engine, it's a keeper. Not crazy tight, but snug.
I'd actually like to see if some form or knurling and resizing the outside of the sleeve would have an even more positive effect than doing nothing. The pinching process often involves clamping down on the sleeve, which further reduces its OD, so resizing the outside seems that it would pay some benefit. Ultimately this is an exercise in extending the life of the engine as inexpensively as possible, so this may not make sense in the final analysis due to increased cost, but suffice it to say, I would at least prefer no polishing of the sleeve.
Best of luck with your service and kudos for doing what you can for your family.
I will add the option on my order form so customers can choose whether or not they want the sleeve polished. Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks,
Lance
Rcrenew.com
#26
Most people will gladly disclose that they're using Ray's tooling, if that's the case. People offering such a service will not gladly disclose that they're using a clamp.
The questions about the tooling are legit. It's evident that people are more confident in someone who is using a trusted system than someone who is not. That applies to a whole lot of things in life, not just R/C.
#27
I remember there was someone in the FS threads offering a $10 pinching service or something and he wouldn't reveal his methods either and was blasted for it. Haven't seen him since really.
I am not a nitro guy so I don't care either way but I do agree that being as transparent as possible is going to help. Especially on the net as there are tons of sucky people out there wanting to take advantage of someone looking for a good deal.
Truly wish you the best!
I am not a nitro guy so I don't care either way but I do agree that being as transparent as possible is going to help. Especially on the net as there are tons of sucky people out there wanting to take advantage of someone looking for a good deal.
Truly wish you the best!
#28
The only reason, I was not "revealing" what Tools We used what purely out of respect for the guys doing this LONG before we have. Thats all. I felt like it would be wrong as "us" the new guys to reveal What may be trade secrets to the service. AS when we looked we could not find anyone who showed exactly what or how they were doing it. So in our minds ,our thought were HMM,,,,there must be some reason for this??
Nothing here to hide guys, Just trying to be respectful. but I did find Rayaracing pictures on the web of his equipment after gettting all the comments, and If he has pictures of it then obviously he's OK with letting people know about what he uses so then I would not be doing anything wrong by revealing we use the same equipment Rayaracing does.
Thanks guys for all the comments and suggestions. Ray does a great job and thats why we picked out of every other method to use his method. Its our opinion the best in the business. Mainly started doing this for myself and my fellow racers, but expanded due to the great results and increasing demand.
Thanks,
Lance
RcRenew.com
Nothing here to hide guys, Just trying to be respectful. but I did find Rayaracing pictures on the web of his equipment after gettting all the comments, and If he has pictures of it then obviously he's OK with letting people know about what he uses so then I would not be doing anything wrong by revealing we use the same equipment Rayaracing does.
Thanks guys for all the comments and suggestions. Ray does a great job and thats why we picked out of every other method to use his method. Its our opinion the best in the business. Mainly started doing this for myself and my fellow racers, but expanded due to the great results and increasing demand.
Thanks,
Lance
RcRenew.com
#29
Your business is greatly appreciated,
Lance
RcRenew.com
#30
whers does osrocket...or rayaracing "show" their equipment?...my engine guys AD motor workz uses the raya racing equipment and its a press with some dies...give this guy a break if u dont want to use him then so be it but to come here and demand photos of his equipment is just dumb...
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