CHASSIS UPDATE TIME....BUT WHICH ONE ??
04-01-2010 | 02:47 AM
#16
Im yet to brake anything...although i havent really hit anything. Rolled it heaps tho
All good so far. The bd5W should be an even bigger improvement. If your not in any rush, wait till the European outdoor season starts then make up your mind
All good so far. The bd5W should be an even bigger improvement. If your not in any rush, wait till the European outdoor season starts then make up your mind
04-01-2010 | 03:06 AM
#17
04-01-2010 | 03:09 AM
#18
1) 416
2) Cyclone/Yokemo
3)3R/T3
The 3 jap cars are basically the same, the real goodness is in the steering rack and the next cyclone is even going to the sideways servo like the 416. Out of the 3 the tamiya is the nicest looking which is why it's the best.
I'd say they all crash the same, xrays are always the most durable but anything will break if try hard enough
04-01-2010 | 03:57 AM
#19
nah probably
1) 416
2) Cyclone/Yokemo
3)3R/T3
The 3 jap cars are basically the same, the real goodness is in the steering rack and the next cyclone is even going to the sideways servo like the 416. Out of the 3 the tamiya is the nicest looking which is why it's the best.
I'd say they all crash the same, xrays are always the most durable but anything will break if try hard enough
1) 416
2) Cyclone/Yokemo
3)3R/T3
The 3 jap cars are basically the same, the real goodness is in the steering rack and the next cyclone is even going to the sideways servo like the 416. Out of the 3 the tamiya is the nicest looking which is why it's the best.
I'd say they all crash the same, xrays are always the most durable but anything will break if try hard enough
I tend to agree with ya...
the new Kyosho, Yokomo, TC5 and 416 looks really good.. however very close in design..
Seems there are new Yokomo parts which could provide a come back for Yokomo
AE seems to have given up
Kyosho are trying to make a come back but looks like another car (BD5)
The new Cyclone.. Ummm like the belts being able to swap sides..
Steering you pointed out is like 416, Yokomo a side on servo.
personaly this leave so much room the motor ESC just makes more sense.
Some team drivers aka hara and Andy Moore said back to back tests the new Cyclone is .5 second quicker.. must be the steering
Other may disagree..
p.s there is no motor & battery is missing this is because he was in the middle of a contract change between Orion and LRP
04-01-2010 | 08:16 AM
#20
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,310
From: Sydney, Australia
Out of the list you originally posted the Cyclone is by far the best. It is very much on par with the fastest chassis there is (416) but is both cheaper, has much better parts support (OS though) and is THE only strong asian chassis. The two consistently fastest 17.5 drivers in sydney both run one (although one now has an even faster car going together right now).
Considering you are a windsor local another good choice would be the T3. XRAY has been for a long time now the most durable EP chassis on the market, has the 2nd best diffs and now that they have finally woken up about how you correctly mount suspension, great handling too. They are also now backed in Australia by an importer who will provide fantastic parts support.
These are probably your best choices for all round mainstream support.
Considering you are a windsor local another good choice would be the T3. XRAY has been for a long time now the most durable EP chassis on the market, has the 2nd best diffs and now that they have finally woken up about how you correctly mount suspension, great handling too. They are also now backed in Australia by an importer who will provide fantastic parts support.
These are probably your best choices for all round mainstream support.
04-01-2010 | 03:41 PM
#21
Thanks for the input so far !!
What about the Tigermoth ? I have seen a few comments regarding the short Losi style arms.
What will this mean on the track though, bearing in mind that 95% of its use will be at Windsor with grip ?
I realise with this one, that i'll be pretty much alone as far as setting it up goes.
But I'd think the Losi set ups may translate across ....
They also have an Aussie distributor and use some borrowed parts, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Obviously I'd need spares of my own for race night.
It certainly fits my "different" status.
Oh, what is the actual benefit of chassis mounted lower A arm mounts ?
Regards,
Michael.
What about the Tigermoth ? I have seen a few comments regarding the short Losi style arms.
What will this mean on the track though, bearing in mind that 95% of its use will be at Windsor with grip ?
I realise with this one, that i'll be pretty much alone as far as setting it up goes.
But I'd think the Losi set ups may translate across ....
They also have an Aussie distributor and use some borrowed parts, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Obviously I'd need spares of my own for race night.
It certainly fits my "different" status.
Oh, what is the actual benefit of chassis mounted lower A arm mounts ?
Regards,
Michael.
04-01-2010 | 09:08 PM
#23
My wife had given up on me racing.....I'm not allowed out as often at present.
I'm still very much undecided.
Keen on the BD5W and the Tigermoth.
Would go the Cyclone,but I know i'll regret it once the new one is out.......
Also have quality concerns with the Sakura.....
I'm still very much undecided.
Keen on the BD5W and the Tigermoth.
Would go the Cyclone,but I know i'll regret it once the new one is out.......
Also have quality concerns with the Sakura.....
04-02-2010 | 01:51 AM
#24
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,310
From: Sydney, Australia
Thanks for the input so far !!
What about the Tigermoth ? I have seen a few comments regarding the short Losi style arms.
What will this mean on the track though, bearing in mind that 95% of its use will be at Windsor with grip ?
I realise with this one, that i'll be pretty much alone as far as setting it up goes.
But I'd think the Losi set ups may translate across ....
They also have an Aussie distributor and use some borrowed parts, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Obviously I'd need spares of my own for race night.
It certainly fits my "different" status.
Oh, what is the actual benefit of chassis mounted lower A arm mounts ?
Regards,
Michael.
What about the Tigermoth ? I have seen a few comments regarding the short Losi style arms.
What will this mean on the track though, bearing in mind that 95% of its use will be at Windsor with grip ?
I realise with this one, that i'll be pretty much alone as far as setting it up goes.
But I'd think the Losi set ups may translate across ....
They also have an Aussie distributor and use some borrowed parts, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Obviously I'd need spares of my own for race night.
It certainly fits my "different" status.
Oh, what is the actual benefit of chassis mounted lower A arm mounts ?
Regards,
Michael.
As for mounting lower arms stay away from designs that do not mount onto the lower deck. While this does not really seem to limit the maximum potential of the chassis you do notice at the track that cars with this design can be very hot and cold. The drivers often have to put a lot more work into setup or simply the car requires a high calibeir driver to be at the front. Keep in mind that while any chassis can win with a good driver, what you want is a chassis that works for a average driver so you can focus on driving rather than stressing over setup all day.
04-02-2010 | 03:51 AM
#25
Michael,
Why don't you make your own like we did (we, sort of)
Use your (hard to sell, no one wants'em unless they are dirt cheap ) T2-Pro as a donor car
Buy an Exotek chassis (2mm lower deck, so much grip, balance & lots of steering)
Add some TRF shocks, some titanium turnbuckles & screws etc
Add some other stuff I won't mention out loud...shhh
and bingo, you've got a great car that's different, yet doesn't have the distaste of poor parts back up/quality,
Low cost, great re-sale value (try & sell a scythe
) & is still a strong quality product
And yes, they do go well, PM for more details
Why don't you make your own like we did (we, sort of)
Use your (hard to sell, no one wants'em unless they are dirt cheap ) T2-Pro as a donor car
Buy an Exotek chassis (2mm lower deck, so much grip, balance & lots of steering)
Add some TRF shocks, some titanium turnbuckles & screws etc
Add some other stuff I won't mention out loud...shhh
and bingo, you've got a great car that's different, yet doesn't have the distaste of poor parts back up/quality,
Low cost, great re-sale value (try & sell a scythe
) & is still a strong quality productAnd yes, they do go well, PM for more details
04-02-2010 | 08:33 PM
#26
T.O.P PHOTON - Local part support, Won nationals and summer nats thanks to team driver Daimo
YOKOMO BD5 - Doing well indoor in Europe, won LRP masters and indoor European title. However sorry Ant and Ryan think it is more a Indoor car also there is a new version coming out.
CYCLONE TC - Ment to be good, Won a lot of things round the world.. However there is a new version coming out in June so would wait.. I am going to test drive one of these babies in June.
Sakura - It Is Pink, END of Bradd is loving his however as it a prototype parts hard to come accross but very good value for money when released.
T3 - Bang on the money, lots of support mate at Windsor and Ant is even happy to give you his setup
he won Bendigo with it.. so good resource to have at the end of a PM.
Personally have 2 x T3 now, next week testing the stock spec setup for the club, feel free to have a test..
Or just wait until June and buy one of my T3's when I sell them for the new Cyclone
YOKOMO BD5 - Doing well indoor in Europe, won LRP masters and indoor European title. However sorry Ant and Ryan think it is more a Indoor car also there is a new version coming out.
CYCLONE TC - Ment to be good, Won a lot of things round the world.. However there is a new version coming out in June so would wait.. I am going to test drive one of these babies in June.
Sakura - It Is Pink, END of
Bradd is loving his however as it a prototype parts hard to come accross but very good value for money when released.T3 - Bang on the money, lots of support mate at Windsor and Ant is even happy to give you his setup
he won Bendigo with it.. so good resource to have at the end of a PM.
Personally have 2 x T3 now, next week testing the stock spec setup for the club, feel free to have a test..
Or just wait until June and buy one of my T3's when I sell them for the new Cyclone
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