57LikesThe Speed Passion Thread
03-02-2010 | 03:48 AM
#2731
Tech Elite
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From: The Sky
03-02-2010 | 07:46 AM
#2733
Tech Initiate
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 24
Today I want to test my new ESC Tekin RS Pro with the SPBA01. Motor test is OK. But when I try brushless system analysis, only the seven leds blinks. Motor does nothing. Someone know this problem ? And the solution ?
Tia.
03-02-2010 | 10:30 AM
#2734
Tech Rookie
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4
Oki do'ki
Just finished racing at the TITC event in Thailand where there was over 300 entries. Funniest thing at the whole event was watching the Speed Passion team drivers in the brushless class. They had Tekin ESC's with a heatsink stuck on top with Speed Passion stickers stuck around the outside 
Now that is just hilarious
Now that is just hilarious
I like to see some proper proof.
Please give us some name of the drivers involved.
Asgeir
03-02-2010 | 10:47 AM
#2735
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,295
From: Chicago Illinois USA
Contracted drivers...and sponsored drivers. Then, different region/country has different requirment. Big different....
As far as I was told from those who did attended the TITC including Scotty himself.....track (on ground) are 70*c, that is close to 160*F on ground. If they can mount a refrigerator above the speedo, they will do that.
"THAT" person...using SP heat sink and fan and even stickers around his TEKIN probably is for only 1 reason - cool down the speedo. My concern is...was he contracted/instructed to use ONLY SPEED PASSION speed control at TITC...?
Was he using SP speedo on the qualifier then switch to Tekin? Or he was using Tekin since day 1 at TITC.........?
May be his "requirment" was not enforcing him MUST use Speed Passion speed controller at all....may be he is only required to use at leas 1 item on his car, like the Speed Passion motor and batteries.
Someone will investigated that very soon....and please don't make this a big deal. It was only a STOCK class. We don't see this happened on the PRO-Mod level.
I can ensure this...the upcoming 02XX, 02XX softwares would not disappoint the current GT2 and GT2.1 owner if running STOCK...ask yourself this, 'HOW FAST CAN YOU GO" and "I need DRAG BRAKE PLEASE".....
I have multiple phone calls and emails telling me this is the Tekin killer (or at least equivalent) in 13.5 and 17.5 classes..........and sorry to say that, if that is true, it will be banned from some track or races just like Tekin does except 13.5.
Don't create a DRAMA because of this race or this driver or this incident...the important thing is, does the new software up to par with the stock competition aka TEKIN V203 domination? They answered the question...someone said it was the fastest car out there. They didn't win...but winning is not necessary because you have the fastest car....remember, they were testing the software @ the race, not like they have the software a month ahead and do the testing. They use it the 1st day and fine tune it till the end of the event...
I will let SHAWN and hopefully Adam to finish the rest....Out.
As far as I was told from those who did attended the TITC including Scotty himself.....track (on ground) are 70*c, that is close to 160*F on ground. If they can mount a refrigerator above the speedo, they will do that.
"THAT" person...using SP heat sink and fan and even stickers around his TEKIN probably is for only 1 reason - cool down the speedo. My concern is...was he contracted/instructed to use ONLY SPEED PASSION speed control at TITC...?
Was he using SP speedo on the qualifier then switch to Tekin? Or he was using Tekin since day 1 at TITC.........?
May be his "requirment" was not enforcing him MUST use Speed Passion speed controller at all....may be he is only required to use at leas 1 item on his car, like the Speed Passion motor and batteries.
Someone will investigated that very soon....and please don't make this a big deal. It was only a STOCK class. We don't see this happened on the PRO-Mod level.
I can ensure this...the upcoming 02XX, 02XX softwares would not disappoint the current GT2 and GT2.1 owner if running STOCK...ask yourself this, 'HOW FAST CAN YOU GO" and "I need DRAG BRAKE PLEASE".....
I have multiple phone calls and emails telling me this is the Tekin killer (or at least equivalent) in 13.5 and 17.5 classes..........and sorry to say that, if that is true, it will be banned from some track or races just like Tekin does except 13.5.
Don't create a DRAMA because of this race or this driver or this incident...the important thing is, does the new software up to par with the stock competition aka TEKIN V203 domination? They answered the question...someone said it was the fastest car out there. They didn't win...but winning is not necessary because you have the fastest car....remember, they were testing the software @ the race, not like they have the software a month ahead and do the testing. They use it the 1st day and fine tune it till the end of the event...
I will let SHAWN and hopefully Adam to finish the rest....Out.
03-02-2010 | 10:58 AM
#2736
Contracted drivers...and sponsored drivers. Then, different region/country has different requirment. Big different....
As far as I was told from those who did attended the TITC including Scotty himself.....track (on ground) are 70*c, that is close to 160*F on ground. If they can mount a refrigerator above the speedo, they will do that.
"THAT" person...using SP heat sink and fan and even stickers around his TEKIN probably is for only 1 reason - cool down the speedo. My concern is...was he contracted/instructed to use ONLY SPEED PASSION speed control at TITC...?
Was he using SP speedo on the qualifier then switch to Tekin? Or he was using Tekin since day 1 at TITC.........?
May be his "requirment" was not enforcing him MUST use Speed Passion speed controller at all....may be he is only required to use at leas 1 item on his car, like the Speed Passion motor and batteries.
Someone will investigated that very soon....and please don't make this a big deal. It was only a STOCK class. We don't see this happened on the PRO-Mod level.
I can ensure this...the upcoming 02XX, 02XX softwares would not disappoint the current GT2 and GT2.1 owner if running STOCK...ask yourself this, 'HOW FAST CAN YOU GO" and "I need DRAG BRAKE PLEASE".....
I have multiple phone calls and emails telling me this is the Tekin killer (or at least equivalent) in 13.5 and 17.5 classes..........and sorry to say that, if that is true, it will be banned from some track or races just like Tekin does except 13.5.
Don't create a DRAMA because of this race or this driver or this incident...the important thing is, does the new software up to par with the stock competition aka TEKIN V203 domination? They answered the question...someone said it was the fastest car out there. They didn't win...but winning is not necessary because you have the fastest car....remember, they were testing the software @ the race, not like they have the software a month ahead and do the testing. They use it the 1st day and fine tune it till the end of the event...
I will let SHAWN and hopefully Adam to finish the rest....Out.
As far as I was told from those who did attended the TITC including Scotty himself.....track (on ground) are 70*c, that is close to 160*F on ground. If they can mount a refrigerator above the speedo, they will do that.
"THAT" person...using SP heat sink and fan and even stickers around his TEKIN probably is for only 1 reason - cool down the speedo. My concern is...was he contracted/instructed to use ONLY SPEED PASSION speed control at TITC...?
Was he using SP speedo on the qualifier then switch to Tekin? Or he was using Tekin since day 1 at TITC.........?
May be his "requirment" was not enforcing him MUST use Speed Passion speed controller at all....may be he is only required to use at leas 1 item on his car, like the Speed Passion motor and batteries.
Someone will investigated that very soon....and please don't make this a big deal. It was only a STOCK class. We don't see this happened on the PRO-Mod level.
I can ensure this...the upcoming 02XX, 02XX softwares would not disappoint the current GT2 and GT2.1 owner if running STOCK...ask yourself this, 'HOW FAST CAN YOU GO" and "I need DRAG BRAKE PLEASE".....
I have multiple phone calls and emails telling me this is the Tekin killer (or at least equivalent) in 13.5 and 17.5 classes..........and sorry to say that, if that is true, it will be banned from some track or races just like Tekin does except 13.5.
Don't create a DRAMA because of this race or this driver or this incident...the important thing is, does the new software up to par with the stock competition aka TEKIN V203 domination? They answered the question...someone said it was the fastest car out there. They didn't win...but winning is not necessary because you have the fastest car....remember, they were testing the software @ the race, not like they have the software a month ahead and do the testing. They use it the 1st day and fine tune it till the end of the event...
I will let SHAWN and hopefully Adam to finish the rest....Out.
03-02-2010 | 11:10 AM
#2737
I know this isn't my place to say this but I'm gonna. I've been running the LPF-GT2 this winter in the 13.5 12th scale class at my home track located in Kennet Square Pa. They did a layout change about 2 weeks ago. This past Saturday was a Trophy race. Driving kept me in second but I couldn't keep up with any of the Tekins running the 203 software on the straight. It's only 85ft but it was enough to see the difference between to 2. 1 guy had the Mamba and he was able to keep up. I guess my point to this post is if the new SP software is already showing promise to atleast equal tekins 203 U need to release it before all your loyals that don't run mod buy something else. If U put it out now U give us a fighting chance. Then if U improve it afterwardes just release another.
TY.
TY.
03-02-2010 | 11:20 AM
#2738
I know this isn't my place to say this but I'm gonna. I've been running the LPF-GT2 this winter in the 13.5 12th scale class at my home track located in Kennet Square Pa. They did a layout change about 2 weeks ago. This past Saturday was a Trophy race. Driving kept me in second but I couldn't keep up with any of the Tekins running the 203 software on the straight. It's only 85ft but it was enough to see the difference between to 2. 1 guy had the Mamba and he was able to keep up. I guess my point to this post is if the new SP software is already showing promise to atleast equal tekins 203 U need to release it before all your loyals that don't run mod buy something else. If U put it out now U give us a fighting chance. Then if U improve it afterwardes just release another.
TY.
TY.
I understand your concerns, but at the same time, Speedpassion doesn't want a bunch of esc's coming back because they blew up with the latest software. Getting closer to Tekin is cool, but at what cost? The next run blowing up both your motor and esc? Just give it time guys...we are almost there. Once it is shown that it is faster and still stable enough for the public to run, it will be released. Since the 107 and the 110, there has been 4 or maybe 5 updates already. Trust me when i say, you guys probably wouldn't of liked the early ones....Thanks for your continued support...SP is closer to getting there than you think.
03-02-2010 | 11:59 AM
#2740
to come back to the topic,
I tested last week some Softwares at a midsized highgrip track (SP 13,5T v3.0) :
without stocksoftware laptime 12.08sec (punch on VIII,ESC Timing max, motortiming max), motortemp 53 degres
on the 110 Stocksoftware 11.94sec (punch on VIII,ESC timingmax,
motortiming max) motortemp 59degres and just a little better starting punch
on the 107 stocksoftware 11.81sec (punch on VII, ESC timing max, motortiming max) motortemp 66degres and alot more starting punch and better topspeed with same FDR
I tested last week some Softwares at a midsized highgrip track (SP 13,5T v3.0) :
without stocksoftware laptime 12.08sec (punch on VIII,ESC Timing max, motortiming max), motortemp 53 degres
on the 110 Stocksoftware 11.94sec (punch on VIII,ESC timingmax,
motortiming max) motortemp 59degres and just a little better starting punch
on the 107 stocksoftware 11.81sec (punch on VII, ESC timing max, motortiming max) motortemp 66degres and alot more starting punch and better topspeed with same FDR
03-02-2010 | 12:38 PM
#2741
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,295
From: Chicago Illinois USA
I know this isn't my place to say this but I'm gonna. I've been running the LPF-GT2 this winter in the 13.5 12th scale class at my home track located in Kennet Square Pa. They did a layout change about 2 weeks ago. This past Saturday was a Trophy race. Driving kept me in second but I couldn't keep up with any of the Tekins running the 203 software on the straight. It's only 85ft but it was enough to see the difference between to 2. 1 guy had the Mamba and he was able to keep up. I guess my point to this post is if the new SP software is already showing promise to atleast equal tekins 203 U need to release it before all your loyals that don't run mod buy something else. If U put it out now U give us a fighting chance. Then if U improve it afterwardes just release another.
TY.
TY.
Thats why we have to go UPS and DOWNS and make sure there are close to "NO" problem before we can release it...
03-02-2010 | 12:44 PM
#2742
Is it possible for you guys to lock certain settings on a software? lets say timing past X causes the motor failure, can you lock that down ?
With Shawn heading up that new thing, does that mean we have support in the USA for Speed Passion issues? Do we then send stuff to this new support office or does it need to go direct to HK?
Lastly, just saw the Much More speedo:
whats up with that??
I guess the part I am curious about is this from the description:
wonder if they put USB on the ESC?
With Shawn heading up that new thing, does that mean we have support in the USA for Speed Passion issues? Do we then send stuff to this new support office or does it need to go direct to HK?
Lastly, just saw the Much More speedo:
whats up with that??
I guess the part I am curious about is this from the description:
Brushless ESC with USB
03-02-2010 | 01:13 PM
#2743
Is it possible for you guys to lock certain settings on a software? lets say timing past X causes the motor failure, can you lock that down ?
With Shawn heading up that new thing, does that mean we have support in the USA for Speed Passion issues? Do we then send stuff to this new support office or does it need to go direct to HK?
Lastly, just saw the Much More speedo:
whats up with that??
I guess the part I am curious about is this from the description:
wonder if they put USB on the ESC?
With Shawn heading up that new thing, does that mean we have support in the USA for Speed Passion issues? Do we then send stuff to this new support office or does it need to go direct to HK?
Lastly, just saw the Much More speedo:
whats up with that??
I guess the part I am curious about is this from the description:
wonder if they put USB on the ESC?
Fleta 3.0 (is another HW rebadge aka Venom, Fleta, Hobbywing and ??).
This has not turned out to be such a bad thing in the past, and they are not the only ones doing it LRP SPX to Nosram Matrix, and another brand with the same ESC but with 'varied' software due out in March.
The difference, as has been pointed out in the past, is in the quality of the people involved in each of these brands, the SP guys are really the only ones who are heavily involved in developing these Speedo's to their maximum potential, and as such are a valuable resource to us ALL. Never had much luck with Muchmore stuff though so .......
03-02-2010 | 03:30 PM
#2745
Cain,
It's nothing new. SP, Venom, Much More (Now) and Turnigy is all made by Hobby Wing. I called out Shawn when he started making BS specs for the ESC. I was the one who gave HW a lot of ideas even before they were thinking of making a car ESC. They (HW) told me many times they had no plan to do a car controller, but then I was surprised when Pan started asking me questions of what I would want in a car controller. I even have the first Xerun to hit the US. My last idea for them was the LCD programmer with the USB update. I'll be waiting now to see how many companies will do the HW way and wait a little to get something nice done. Good thing I saved all the MSN messages I had with Pan. I have to figure out how not to affect a US company.
It's nothing new. SP, Venom, Much More (Now) and Turnigy is all made by Hobby Wing. I called out Shawn when he started making BS specs for the ESC. I was the one who gave HW a lot of ideas even before they were thinking of making a car ESC. They (HW) told me many times they had no plan to do a car controller, but then I was surprised when Pan started asking me questions of what I would want in a car controller. I even have the first Xerun to hit the US. My last idea for them was the LCD programmer with the USB update. I'll be waiting now to see how many companies will do the HW way and wait a little to get something nice done. Good thing I saved all the MSN messages I had with Pan. I have to figure out how not to affect a US company.