Merry Christmas Team Orion ALPHA thread!

I have got a couple of the CRF wasp US Spec engines. My question is what Orion product if any, is considered to be the replacement for the CRF wasp US spec? Does anyone have references for max HP on the different models? Is it true that the CRF wasp has been, or will eventually be replaced by the ABI line?

Thanks to all,

I'm not sure if the Alpha is going to replace the US Spec, but the focus right now is definitely on the Alpha ABI/MTE engines. I think the most comparable engine to the US Spec is the MTE engine because it's a 5 port. We prefer the 3 port, but a lot of people want the 5 port because it makes more power? Personally I prefer the added fuel mileage, we don't need more power.

Hi Paul, Could you clarify something for me, Cody's set up from the Fall classic says 5 port. Is this a misprint? What one is Tebo using 3 or 5 port? Also are you guys still using a 2013 pipe? How is the 3 port runtime?

Thanks in advance

Actually that is not a misprint. We have been testing 5 port stuff for awhile which is in the MTE engine. We definitely prefer the 3 port, they have been forcing us to run the 5 port stuff. I think Jared is running a 5 port, pretty sure. We do use a 2013 pipe. The run time on the 3 port is awesome. We have been able to get 12 minutes fairly easy. Any time you have an engine that goes 12+ minutes it's a combination of things to get that mileage, including tune and driver. (unless you choke out the engine with a .12 carb)

Thanks, I appreciate all of your help with info regarding Kyosho and Orion products!

not a problem man, glad to do it...

Hey guys, after a couple inquires about these 3 port engines, I wanted to say that the standard Alpha 3 port is a great option at a screaming good price. I mean there is no way you will find an Italian made engine this good for 200 bucks! IMO the ABI version with the ceramic bearing and turbo button is a great deal as well, but you just can't go wrong either way. Here are some links to the two items:

Standard: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Standard-Plug

ABI: http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ine-Turbo-Plug

I think these engines are very good quality for sure. I had one of the first gen's in the summer of 08' and like it a lot! But I've heard these new ABI's are not getting the mileage.. I had heard that putting a grp carb will do the trick...and I think its true. A buddy of mine just got the ABI a few weeks ago and was only getting about 7 1/2-8 min.. He took his old carb off of his old ninja(not the jx) and bam.. 9-9 1/2 min. But I'm still looking into getting another one as soon as my Werks is done..

I believe that some people are running the GRP carb because the Orion has a tendency to stick if not set-up properly. Runtime depends on driver, track, tuning, etc.. My .21 gets 8:30-9:30 in buggy and the .24 gets 7:30-8:30 in truggy. Both running on 2013 pipes. Still haven't tried the .21 in the truck, but it should get 10min.

Personally I love my Orions, they are very well built and stubbornly reliable. I sold my Nova after running one for the first time.

Hey look, a thread for the REAL Alpha engines.

Saw these guys at the Nitrocross this weekend, they had some pretty cool stuff. ALOT of factory guys already running their stuff at this race. Found this link on the nitro pit website. Their website says coming soon.

... well... now that you mention NITROCROSS... yes TEAM ORION ALPHA did kick major butt at the race, sweeping both Invite classes and 3rd and 4th also in the invite buggy class, so yea, you're right that top pros win with TEAM ORION ALPHA engines at the NitroPit

Nyk, it's true for sure that different carbs CAN get better mileage. If you wanted to do it, you could put a .12 carb on an engine and it would run for 15 minutes, but in that case it would probably suffer in the power department. That being said, the MTE engine has a new cast aluminum carb with improved reliability and mileage while still providing good power.

Pitpop, do you of any difference between the Werks 2013 pipe to the Orion 2013 pipe?? and you may have already said it but what pipe are you guys running?

Reason why I ask is that I'm running werks 2013 now.. and most likely I'll be getting another Orion when the time comes.