Team Orion 3200mAh Race Spec LiPo
#991
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Originally Posted by MrBlack
I am not sure what you mean by the second question? The positive goes to the positive of cell 1 the neg goes to the neg of cell 2 the blancing port is the junction between the neg of cell one and the pos of cell 2.
Originally Posted by c1 racin
(+side) 4.3484 (-side) 3.9679
A difference of
1.****
0.1***
0.01**
0.001*
0.0001
???
Hope that helps you understand what I'm asking.
#993
Originally Posted by sportpak
Are you guys using 4mm bullets or 3mm bullets? I see Great Planes 4mm and Trinity 3mm R-minus. I'd rather not buy anything Trinity.
#994
Tech Champion
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Sorry for not keeping up but is this the balancer you guys are referring to?
http://www.teamorion-avionics.com/Ce...lancing+System
Is there a cable for the 3200 to fit?
http://www.teamorion-avionics.com/Ce...lancing+System
Is there a cable for the 3200 to fit?
#995
Originally Posted by c1 racin
MrBlack ... On my NEW #2 pack I got the numbers So on the + side (+/balacing port) the number is 4.3484 and on the - side (balacing port/-) the number is 3.9679. What difference in the numbers of each side (cell) require them to be balanced?
A difference of
1.****
0.1***
0.01**
0.001*
0.0001
???
A difference of
1.****
0.1***
0.01**
0.001*
0.0001
???
Anything more and it could mean unbalancing is starting to occur.
#997
Originally Posted by or8ital
Sorry for not keeping up but is this the balancer you guys are referring to?
http://www.teamorion-avionics.com/Ce...lancing+System
Is there a cable for the 3200 to fit?
http://www.teamorion-avionics.com/Ce...lancing+System
Is there a cable for the 3200 to fit?
#998
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Originally Posted by MrBlack
The new pack has a slight missbalance (but I would double check to be sure as a new battery showing this is a new one) if you know somebody with a balancer I would just borrow it and balance it out or you can set the Avionics Charger to charge one cell (3.7v) and charge each up individually at 3.7V , 3200mAh using the same connections you are using to balance them.
If you cannot get the cells to balance out then we will gladly replace the pack for you and submit the one you have to Kokam for analysis.
If you cannot get the cells to balance out then we will gladly replace the pack for you and submit the one you have to Kokam for analysis.
I used the Team Orion Stability Balancing System to try to balance the pack that I have that's out of balance. The pack now has the following numbers:
+side= 4.3733
-side= 3.9912
You stated that you Orion would replace it for analysis. However, I have added lead weights to the pack to try to help balance the car I was going to race it in. I did this before you posted how to check the balance and before I found the cells unballanced. The following pictures show what I'm talking about.
Does/Will that affect the exchange of the pack? I can/will remove the lead weights if needed. Please instruct me how to return the pack for exchange.
Thank you,
#999
Tech Lord
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This is probably going to sound silly, but the biggest hassle with LiPo right now is that they're too light. It's quite a challenge getting cars up to weight with the new packs. If Orion came up with some way to keep the form factor of these packs but have them (optionally) weigh a little closer to that of a "normal" NiMH, it would be completely awesome. I'd pay extra to make them heavier.
I'm going to investigate carbide weights and see if that makes things a little easier.
I'm going to investigate carbide weights and see if that makes things a little easier.
#1000
Or even a way to easily move the weights on the pack. Forward/Back L/R, so you can balance the car a little better.
#1001
Tech Lord
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The tungsten plates mentioned on this page look promising since they're so thin, but damn they're expensive! How much room is there inside a Platinum case? Maybe I could do a few layers of these inside?
http://www.maximum-velocity.com/speed_supplies.htm
http://www.maximum-velocity.com/speed_supplies.htm
#1002
Originally Posted by c1 racin
MrBlack
I used the Team Orion Stability Balancing System to try to balance the pack that I have that's out of balance. The pack now has the following numbers:
+side= 4.3733
-side= 3.9912
You stated that you Orion would replace it for analysis. However, I have added lead weights to the pack to try to help balance the car I was going to race it in. I did this before you posted how to check the balance and before I found the cells unballanced. The following pictures show what I'm talking about.
Does/Will that affect the exchange of the pack? I can/will remove the lead weights if needed. Please instruct me how to return the pack for exchange.
Thank you,
I used the Team Orion Stability Balancing System to try to balance the pack that I have that's out of balance. The pack now has the following numbers:
+side= 4.3733
-side= 3.9912
You stated that you Orion would replace it for analysis. However, I have added lead weights to the pack to try to help balance the car I was going to race it in. I did this before you posted how to check the balance and before I found the cells unballanced. The following pictures show what I'm talking about.
Does/Will that affect the exchange of the pack? I can/will remove the lead weights if needed. Please instruct me how to return the pack for exchange.
Thank you,
Thanks, Pete
#1003
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Originally Posted by Pete Thomas
How much weight are you adding to your 3200s and what is the lead thickness? It looks like you have a pretty clean install.
Thanks, Pete
Thanks, Pete
I have the Prather #3055 on the top of the case. On the sides it's some lead tape I bought from a golf shop for golf clubs, it's very thin and I have about 5 layers of it on each side. On the bottom is some more golf club lead tape that I bought from Academy Sports that I cut to fit between the humps.
Here's some pictures of the packs with a carbon decal over it. Don't want to handle the exposed lead , or have a short. One with a pack in the '007 also.
By the way, thanks for the complement.
#1004
Tech Adept
I just bought 2 packs of carbon 3200's. The first pack is awsome but the second pack seems to be faulty. I hook it up to my Orion Avionics charger and it says cell overvoltage and won't charge. It was like this out of the package. The staff from the shop I bought it from were at the track and witnessed this happen.
Does anyone know who I can contact as the shop said I have to talk to Orion directly.
Thanks,
John
Does anyone know who I can contact as the shop said I have to talk to Orion directly.
Thanks,
John
#1005
Originally Posted by Johnny9s
I just bought 2 packs of carbon 3200's. The first pack is awsome but the second pack seems to be faulty. I hook it up to my Orion Avionics charger and it says cell overvoltage and won't charge. It was like this out of the package. The staff from the shop I bought it from were at the track and witnessed this happen.
Does anyone know who I can contact as the shop said I have to talk to Orion directly.
Thanks,
John
Does anyone know who I can contact as the shop said I have to talk to Orion directly.
Thanks,
John
As far as weight goes, be sure to weigh your left side electronics and ballast your right side to equal the left. My testing shows that an IB4200 pack weighs quite a bit more than most electronics. So you don't have to add as much weight and by adding so much that you equalize the weight of the packs, you will still have an unbalanced car.
So in order, the best way to balance your chassis with LiPo is to:
1. Move your personal transponder to the battery side if is not already there
2. Weigh your left side electronics
3. Weigh your PT and LiPo battery
4. Ballast your battery so that your left and right sides match
5. Ballast your chassis equally so that you meet the minimum car weight