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Old 07-06-2023 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcos.J
probably gain more just by cleaning up the driving lol anything to be the fastest of the slowest classes, its all about trophy chasing like these pro sponsor guys that race mod ,racing 17.5 and 21.5 classes lol

The same thing happens in all types of racing. When my son first started MX, he was in the rookie class and racing against other kids that would race in upper classes at other events. They just needed their win-points to get them into bigger race events.

While testing motors, I found that a well used motor, especially used for carpet racing, will gain over 500 RPM's just by cleaning it and oiling the bearings.
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Old 07-06-2023 | 01:13 PM
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500rpms plus better acceleration, and only $800: great !!! It's the RC Game....Don't hate the player, hate the game....
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Old 07-06-2023 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bertrandsv87
500rpms plus better acceleration, and only $800: great !!! It's the RC Game....Don't hate the player, hate the game....

Not hating any of it. Just pointing out how stupid we get just to give our toy cars a tiny boost. It's almost like buying a new pair of shoes to help you run faster on asphalt.
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Old 07-06-2023 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Silver can motors are significantly cheaper than brushless motors. So much so that you could probably buy 10 of them for the price of one brushless motor.
not 100% sure, but i think you missed my point. its not about the money, its about what people will do to get the extra .01 of a lap time.

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Old 07-06-2023 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OffRoadJunkie
Not hating any of it. Just pointing out how stupid we get just to give our toy cars a tiny boost. It's almost like buying a new pair of shoes to help you run faster on asphalt.
hey now, my mommy bought me some Keds and i could jump higher and run faster..
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Old 07-06-2023 | 07:16 PM
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All I need is the paddle game and the remote control and this one extra RPM.
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Old 07-06-2023 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot
not 100% sure, but i think you missed my point. its not about the money, its about what people will do to get the extra .01 of a lap time.
Except it is about the money when it's affordable to do it with brushed motors and an order of magnitude more expensive for brushless.
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Old 07-07-2023 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bsthetech
“If it’s not in the rules it’s illegal”.
SCCA autocross has that rule.
"If it doesn't say you can, you can't."
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Old 07-07-2023 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Except it is about the money when it's affordable to do it with brushed motors and an order of magnitude more expensive for brushless.
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If you need to spend 10x the cost of the motor to get that 0.01 lap time with your hobby, you should

1. quit the hobby as it’s clearly not a healthy choice for you
2. Use that money you were going to spend on the motor on a therapist

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Old 07-07-2023 | 07:53 AM
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i think i need you USGT racers to start tuning my open Stock and Super Stock motors. there is way more thought going into motors than i would believe.

the point of a spec motor is to stop focusing on the motor. we did this w/ the Can-Am Series and it work really well. when you stop focusing on motors you can invest time in setups and driving. these two things will have a much great outcome than any small improvement you can do to a USGT motor.
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Old 07-07-2023 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
i think i need you USGT racers to start tuning my open Stock and Super Stock motors. there is way more thought going into motors than i would believe.

the point of a spec motor is to stop focusing on the motor. we did this w/ the Can-Am Series and it work really well. when you stop focusing on motors you can invest time in setups and driving. these two things will have a much great outcome than any small improvement you can do to a USGT motor.
i guess when they lack driving and set up skills they just go with adding more power lol
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Old 07-07-2023 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Except it is about the money when it's affordable to do it with brushed motors and an order of magnitude more expensive for brushless.
affordability is the name of the game. many a moon ago when i started in this hobby I would say, I don't mind getting out driven, but I hate getting out spent. I can afford to buy 10 team trinity certified motors if i chose to. I don't spend like that anymore, because as stated, one pipe tap and its all wasted. And as an old man, tapping that pipe is a regular occurrence now.
Although i am lucky enough to have a outdoor track without pipes. I hate to think of the money i spent trying to get that extra .01
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Old 07-07-2023 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
i think i need you USGT racers to start tuning my open Stock and Super Stock motors. there is way more thought going into motors than i would believe.

the point of a spec motor is to stop focusing on the motor. we did this w/ the Can-Am Series and it work really well. when you stop focusing on motors you can invest time in setups and driving. these two things will have a much great outcome than any small improvement you can do to a USGT motor.

WAIT!!!
Are you telling me races are not won on the straightaway? This is why I prefer a little better acceleration over that tiny bit of top speed.
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Old 07-07-2023 | 10:11 AM
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Friends: you must unlock the magical power hidden in optimization, which includes the color of your anodizing. But not magnetic fields or anything like that.

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Old 07-07-2023 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
i think i need you USGT racers to start tuning my open Stock and Super Stock motors. there is way more thought going into motors than i would believe.

the point of a spec motor is to stop focusing on the motor. we did this w/ the Can-Am Series and it work really well. when you stop focusing on motors you can invest time in setups and driving. these two things will have a much great outcome than any small improvement you can do to a USGT motor.
Its easier to blame the steel screws
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