Please list every major race series that did not have a governing body at it's inception. Le Mans had a governing body, NASCAR had a governing body, I have never heard of an organized 1:1 race not having some sort of governing body that did not enforce rules. Please also site examples of governing bodies not being able to enforce rules. Thank you.

The answer to your question is no, RC is not a motorsport. Like I said, go make that video, prove me wrong.

Professional 1:1 races have a governing body. Professional 1:10 races also do...I don't get your point.

Also, I didn't say anything about "major race series". The discussion was about motorsports and in this regard, I'd say that motorsports did exist before governing bodies.

Well .... so can you still change the bearings?

Elon just said you’re all about to get cut off, post count is exceeding bandwitdth, We must all be aware of the power grid!

Alright, alright, alright. I think everyone's said their piece. Let's go back to talking about the results that changing the motor screws has had on the motor.

So far, we've seen a slight increase in RPM output, but what about the torque figures? If anyone has a dyno to test that out, I'd love to see them.


Elon won't pay the bill.

I will test on a minipro next week. I just finished putting all my stuff up since my house goes on the market in a couple of days. My guess is that you will not see much difference though. It is already marginal on a small load.

EDIT: I would “almost” guarantee that the error allowed in the timing range of this “spec” motor far outweighs any performance from running non magnetic screws.

Personally I think that the banning of non magnetic screws was a knee jerk reaction to a non issue. But also, I don’t really care, my USGT motor has seen more use as a slave motor than it ever saw on the track.

The only difference between the two now is the components and the writing on the can…we still have all the tinkering with a spec motor….that we had with open 21.5. Frankly, I prefer the spec motor and would be a big fan of keeping it….but all this motor tweaking is turning me off…especially for a spec class!

Our club adopted the spec motor when it was first released and up until recent has been a good move. It seems we had several that were buying multiple motors and mating the best components…and god know what else. It’s frustrating because it’s a spec class running a spec motor…that should have gone in the car without all the tweaking, right out of the box and into the car!

Surprised no one has mentioned the obvious solution here, Your club/organization buys a dozen (or more if needed) spec motors and hands them out at the race. Hand out motors have featured in spec racing for years.

That's a lot of cash outlay for just one class that might not last and/or have rule changes that make those motors obsolete. And someone has to maintain them, handle complaints about underperforming motors etc. It was more tenable in the brushed motor era when the per-unit cost was far cheaper. Bigger events and clubs can probably manage it, but not all of them.

I really dont want to read all this... but I guess spec motor tampering is still a thing... OMG guys just read what Rob wrote, Im 100% behind this... buy a motor... put it in your car.... race...whats the problem

Two words.....competition

"Modelsport"
Model cars with a sporting aspect.

Is a motor involved? Check.
Is there some sporting aspect to our toys?

Another name I heard getting used on invisible speed youtube channel "Scale Motorsports"... if the word "sport" is a problem bc of of whats been mentioned already then maybe Scale Motor Racing (broad also covering rc bikes etc ) or Scale Motorcar Racing ( specifically rc cars only).

What about a motor claim rule? If you finish in the top three anybody in that race can buy your motor for a set price. That usually stifles tweaking in full scale.